.350 Rem Mag vs .35 Whelen

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I'm going to be reloading soon and I'm wondering if there is any advantage to owning a .350 Remington Mag over the .35 Whelen. What do you CGNer's think?

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Slooshark1
 
The .350 RM can be had/made on a Model 7 action. That would be a light, handy carbine. Other than that, I don't know if it has any advantages. Case capacity is virtually identical, the .350 is 73.74gr of water the Whelen is 72.63gr of water. Both specs come from factory R-P brass. Performance should be virtually identical in equal pressure, equal barrel length loads.
 
Slooshark1 said:
is any advantage to owning a .350 Remington Mag over the .35 Whelen.


You will likely get a few responses here on this one. I have owned both and currently own a 350RM. I personally like my 350 better than the Whelen because of the fit of the rifle (mostly). My Whelen was a Rem 7600 and it was never comfortable to me. The recoil feels the same for both, as it should, they are almost equal in the ballistic department. The 350RM is a short action, which is nice. But the Whelen can use 30-06 brass which is far cheaper than 350RM brass (and ammo).

I like both calibres, but my preference is the 350RM - which I have just ordered another Ruger in stainless/synthetic. :cool: Either way, whatever you are hunting won't know the difference.

Good luck.

James
:)
 
From a performance point of view, they're very similar.

My Whelen will hold 5 rounds down whereas the Remington will probably only hold 3 down. Also, I can make my Whelen cases out of plentiful(and free) .30-06 brass.
 
stanway said:
I like both calibres, but my preference is the 350RM - which I have just ordered another Ruger in stainless/synthetic. :cool:
James
:)

Where did you order this from James?

Years ago my dad had a Remmy in 350 mag so its kind of my stentimental favorite but like the boys have said they're pretty much equals, one being a short action the other long....
 
Salty said:
Where did you order this from James?


I have ordered it through Stillwater Sports, in Ladner. He said it might take 2 or 3 months, but I will have it before next hunting season. Besides, I have the other one to play with until then.

:D
 
My only experience is with the 350 RM....looked at one of those tiny vent ribbed models many years ago. The gun dealer gave me two rounds and told me to walk down to his range and try it. I did! I returned the rifle and the two rounds...one spent and the other not. I told him I'd think about it. He said he'd sent a number of guys down with two rounds and all had returned with one live one. I'd love to get my hands on one of those today as I am better with the recoil now.
 
The Remington M673 guide rifle comes with the vent rib and is available in .350 RM, if you really want the modern incarnation of that original M600/660 magnum. It's probably got a nicer recoil pad too.:D

Pat
 
Try the 35 whelen and then blow it out to an immproved shoulder(40deg)
You usually gain 200fps often more.This is assuming you reload.
I love it ,everything it hits goes down like it was hit with the hammer
of Thor.

regards
 
Rotek said:
Try the 35 whelen and then blow it out to an immproved shoulder(40deg)
You usually gain 200fps often more.This is assuming you reload.
I love it ,everything it hits goes down like it was hit with the hammer
of Thor.

regards

That's a pretty impressive improvement. What loads are you using and what are the velocities?
 
1899
The load is
Barnes 200gr xfb
66.5 gr reloader 15
cci primers.
vel =2870fps
3 rds cut a nice clover leaf hole@100yds
Its a warm load but not maxing out yet in my rifle
this the only load I used in my rifle for anything from
deer on up.Yah its a little much fo the skinny white tail
but I often see deer out past 300yds.
the rifle was a 700 with a 24"shilen bbl.
a friend was so impressed after seeing what it did to a moose
and a porker he put down an obscene amount of cash and pryed it
away from me .
I missed it so much I'm having another build on a Rem titanium action
with a Shilen bbl and a McMillan M4a1(general purpose Hunting stock)
I'll have work the load up again but I should be able to reach the same
loading and the rifle will be acurized so it should shoot just as well .
But you never know.
I'm looking to take this rig to Bc next year so Ill also work up a 250 or 275gr
load so I have a spare mag of big bruin medicne in case of emergencies.
Hitting 2650 fps with a 250 gr or 2300fps with 275gr is no big trick.
Just have to be careful.
reoader 15 is giving me the best velocity/accuracy.
regards
 
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My 35 Whelen load gives me 2600 to 2650 fps(measured) from 60.0gr(0.5gr over max as per Alliant load info) of RL-15 behind a Hornady 250gr SP. That load in my Rem 7600 will shoot into .75" .
I have dropped Moose and Elk out past 400 yds(measured) on several occasions.
The 35 Whelen brass is cheap and easy to find and will feed reliably from any magazine designed for the 25-06, 270, 280, 30-06 and 338-06.
The 35 rem mag will do anything that the 35 whelen will do and if that is what you want, then by all means go for it. The difference in ballistics between the two is like splitting hairs. Converting a magazine to feed reliably can be an interesting chore indeed. I suggest finding a rifle chambered for 35 rem mag from the factory.

Good Luck
John
 
JohnnyJ said:
The 350 rem mag will do anything that the 35 whelen will do and if that is what you want, then by all means go for it. The difference in ballistics between the two is like splitting hairs.

Amen, & well said! :)

The one slight advantage the Whelen offers (in similar rifles) is one more round in the magazine.




sc
 
I like the .35 Whelen, and the 9.3x62. I was wondering how much difference the AI version on the former would make. I guess the .35 Whelen AI using Swift 280gr A-Frames would just about be a carbon copy of the 9.3x62 using 286gr bullets. Sounds pretty good.
 
My 350RM is a Remington Classic in a macmillan stock with other bits (canjar, eaw, tubb striker etc)... my 35 Whelan is a Remington 7600 - stock. They both shoot well and have anchored anything I have used them on..both hold zero well ... I often take the 7600 first simply because of the detachable box magazine...I can see no other real advantage one cartridge has over the other....AP (ps for best accuracy I seat the 200gr. Hornady out quite a bit in the 7600)
 
350 Rem/35 Whelen

For all practical purposes they do the same thing. Unless, you care to move to the 300 grain, 310 grain bullet category. Most 350 actions and magazines aren't long enough to handle these bullet weights well. There is some doubt as to whether or not the 1/16 twist available from Remington will stabilize these bullets beyond 100 yards. Internet lore as I've never had a 1/16 although I've had 3 different 35 Whelens over the past 40 years but they have been 1/14 (2) or 1/12 (1). Either are great big game rounds for North America. I like the extra capacity of the 35 Whelen in the magazine. Not sure why as anything I've shot with them only required 1. One less thing to rattle in my pocket I guess.
 
In my opinion the biggest difference between these two is not in their velocity difference but in the type of rifles they are chambered in. There are very few rifles that have that handy feeling than an old M600 or the newer Model Seven. I use both a M600 in 35 Rem and a M7 MS in 350 RM. They are by far two of the handiest rifles I use. This is where the 350 has a big advantage over a 35 Whelen, in the feel department. If you want a "regular" bolt action get the Whelen or for real power in the same size rifle go for the 358 Norma Mag. But if you want alot of power in a short handy rifle go for the 350 RM in a M7KS or M7MS and don't look back, you will love the feel in every step you take compared to hauling around a long heavy gun.
bigbull
 
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