38+p and titegroup

Or just reply to the thread like you did before.

Any 38spl load can be shot in a 357mag gun, that being said any over charged 38 is dangerous regardless, but maybe a bit less dangerous in a 357mag as I doubt the rim of the case would rupture.
 
Spawn-Inc said:
Any 38spl load can be shot in a 357mag gun, that being said any over charged 38 is dangerous regardless, but maybe a bit less dangerous in a 357mag as I doubt the rim of the case would rupture.
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There are so many misconceptions and unproven theories going around the CGN about shooting.
Where did you get the idea that a 38 special rim may rupture, if it was over loaded for a 38 Special, and fired in a 357 magnum?
The most famous bullet for a 357 magnum is the Keith designed Lyman #358429, weighing about 168 grains. Only problem is when it is loaded in 357 magnum brass and crimped in the proper crimping groove, it is too long for the cylinders in the most popular 357 guns, such as the heavy frame S&W and the Colt Python.
There are two solutions to the problem. One is to use 357 magnum brass and crimp the bullet over its shoulder, instead of the crimping groove.
The other solution was made popular by the late Skeeter Skelton, very well known revolver shooter and experimenter, long time gun editor of a very popular US shooting magazine and sheriff of Deaf Smith County, Texas.
His simple solution for using a bullet too long to go into many cylinders of the 357, was just use 38 Special brass and crimp the bullet in the proper groove! Since he was the most popular revolver writer of his time and he specialized in the 357 magnum, there were massive numbers of US shooters following him and loading full steam 357 magnum loads in 38 Special brass. And we never heard of even one 38 Special brass failure.
I too, loaded for the 357, using both 38 Special brass and 357 brass. The exact same load was used, whether it was to go into 38 Special or 357 brass. I chronographed the same load in each of the two types of brass cases and the velocity was virtually identical.
 
H4831 said:
There are so many misconceptions and unproven theories going around the CGN about shooting.
Where did you get the idea that a 38 special rim may rupture, if it was over loaded for a 38 Special, and fired in a 357 magnum?
The most famous bullet for a 357 magnum is the Keith designed Lyman #358429, weighing about 168 grains. Only problem is when it is loaded in 357 magnum brass and crimped in the proper crimping groove, it is too long for the cylinders in the most popular 357 guns, such as the heavy frame S&W and the Colt Python.
There are two solutions to the problem. One is to use 357 magnum brass and crimp the bullet over its shoulder, instead of the crimping groove.
The other solution was made popular by the late Skeeter Skelton, very well known revolver shooter and experimenter, long time gun editor of a very popular US shooting magazine and sheriff of Deaf Smith County, Texas.
His simple solution for using a bullet too long to go into many cylinders of the 357, was just use 38 Special brass and crimp the bullet in the proper groove! Since he was the most popular revolver writer of his time and he specialized in the 357 magnum, there were massive numbers of US shooters following him and loading full steam 357 magnum loads in 38 Special brass. And we never heard of even one 38 Special brass failure.
I too, loaded for the 357, using both 38 Special brass and 357 brass. The exact same load was used, whether it was to go into 38 Special or 357 brass. I chronographed the same load in each of the two types of brass cases and the velocity was virtually identical.
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Thank you. Good info.

I used to do this, but stopped for fear that a hot load would wind up in one of my 38s.
 
joseaventurero said:
i didnt know how to edit mi post from yesterday, but the ammo in question its 38+p not 357 magnum, , i think this ammo will be ok to shot in a magnum revolver, what do you think
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You can shoot .38 +P ammo in a .357 magnum revolver all day long.
 
H4831 said:
The exact same load was used, whether it was to go into 38 Special or 357 brass. I chronographed the same load in each of the two types of brass cases and the velocity was virtually identical.
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Yup. When I'm done un-packing, I'll see if I can dug up some of the 'old' reloading data for the 357 (before lawyers got involved in the business, and they lowered max pressures)
Personally, when loading magnum load, I prefer slower burning powder such as 2400/H110 or lately Lil-Gun.
 
H4831 said:
There are so many misconceptions and unproven theories going around the CGN about shooting.
Where did you get the idea that a 38 special rim may rupture, if it was over loaded for a 38 Special, and fired in a 357 magnum?
The most famous bullet for a 357 magnum is the Keith designed Lyman #358429, weighing about 168 grains. Only problem is when it is loaded in 357 magnum brass and crimped in the proper crimping groove, it is too long for the cylinders in the most popular 357 guns, such as the heavy frame S&W and the Colt Python.
There are two solutions to the problem. One is to use 357 magnum brass and crimp the bullet over its shoulder, instead of the crimping groove.
The other solution was made popular by the late Skeeter Skelton, very well known revolver shooter and experimenter, long time gun editor of a very popular US shooting magazine and sheriff of Deaf Smith County, Texas.
His simple solution for using a bullet too long to go into many cylinders of the 357, was just use 38 Special brass and crimp the bullet in the proper groove! Since he was the most popular revolver writer of his time and he specialized in the 357 magnum, there were massive numbers of US shooters following him and loading full steam 357 magnum loads in 38 Special brass. And we never heard of even one 38 Special brass failure.
I too, loaded for the 357, using both 38 Special brass and 357 brass. The exact same load was used, whether it was to go into 38 Special or 357 brass. I chronographed the same load in each of the two types of brass cases and the velocity was virtually identical.
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.........Thank yor Mister H4831, you answer its the best answer I ever see. thank you very much .
 
H4831 said:
There are so many misconceptions and unproven theories going around the CGN about shooting.
Where did you get the idea that a 38 special rim may rupture, if it was over loaded for a 38 Special, and fired in a 357 magnum?
The most famous bullet for a 357 magnum is the Keith designed Lyman #358429, weighing about 168 grains. Only problem is when it is loaded in 357 magnum brass and crimped in the proper crimping groove, it is too long for the cylinders in the most popular 357 guns, such as the heavy frame S&W and the Colt Python.
There are two solutions to the problem. One is to use 357 magnum brass and crimp the bullet over its shoulder, instead of the crimping groove.
The other solution was made popular by the late Skeeter Skelton, very well known revolver shooter and experimenter, long time gun editor of a very popular US shooting magazine and sheriff of Deaf Smith County, Texas.
His simple solution for using a bullet too long to go into many cylinders of the 357, was just use 38 Special brass and crimp the bullet in the proper groove! Since he was the most popular revolver writer of his time and he specialized in the 357 magnum, there were massive numbers of US shooters following him and loading full steam 357 magnum loads in 38 Special brass. And we never heard of even one 38 Special brass failure.
I too, loaded for the 357, using both 38 Special brass and 357 brass. The exact same load was used, whether it was to go into 38 Special or 357 brass. I chronographed the same load in each of the two types of brass cases and the velocity was virtually identical.
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i said "i doubt" the rim would rupture, i never said it would. if you fill a 38spl case with tightgroup or similar burn rate powders bad things will happen.
 
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