38 Super Brass - Where?

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I know this isn't the reloading forum but since it is primarily IPSC shooters who shoot 38 Super this seems like a better place to ask...

1. Can anyone confirm whether it is legal to bring brass back from the US
2. Where do people get their 38 Super brass from?
 
Unprimed brass OK to bring accross Border but you nust declare and pay GST, etc.

For Canadian supply, you can contact Wolf Bullets in Kingston, Ontario or Double Tap Sports for Starline.
 
I cleaned out Wholesale Sports' (Calgary) stock in December. Not sure when they'll be re-stocking. Maybe not until after the move.


WHYLOOK said:
Unprimed brass OK to bring accross Border but you nust declare and pay GST, etc.
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Are you sure about that? I'm quite sure it's against US law to export ammunition components without an export permit......
 
StoneHorse said:
Unless US law has changed recently and I don't think it has, you cannot legally export ammo components without a permit.
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As long as it is under $100.00 USD you can bring it in. That is the biggest reason Starline sells in lot of 500.
 
I have about 300 virgin Starline 38 Super I don't need. ;)

I bought them direct from Starline in a 500 pack.
 
MOBILE 1 said:
As long as it is under $100.00 USD you can bring it in. That is the biggest reason Starline sells in lot of 500.
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Then I guess you must have a US export permit.;)

Q4. I want to buy parts in the US for my firearm and import them into Canada.
A4. The US controls on the export of firearms extends to parts also. For small orders worth less than US$100.00 the US Department of State allows an exemption from the export licence. This exemption, however, does not cover ‘significant’ parts which includes; barrels, slides, cylinders, bolts, frames and receivers. It should be noted that there is no equivalent exemption offered by the Department of Commerce for shotgun parts. Further, there is no exemption for ammunition or ammunition components. Canadian importers should follow the procedure outlined in Q1 (above) to import parts not exempted.
 
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Wholesale does bring in 38 super brass, Winchester. i am going to be talking to Doug Rayner about bring in some starline brass for myself and a couple of others. if you want in Steve send me an email.

as for bring in antyhing from the states if the manufactuer won't send it to you then it is probably illegal. i went through the hassle once with the americans. took me 6 months and $100 US to get my stuff back.
 
Walter Hornby said:
Wholesale does bring in 38 super brass, Winchester. i am going to be talking to Doug Rayner about bring in some starline brass for myself and a couple of others. if you want in Steve send me an email.
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E-mail sent :)
 
Hi to all,
I am one of the only Starline distributors for Canada, they will not ship to individual or any business with out a import/export permit, Double Tap Sports has all the permits in place..so guy start ordering.
 
Ammunition
Both Canadians and non-residents may import sporting and competitive ammunition for their personal use, but if they want to import hollow-point ammunition labelled for use in handguns, they need written authorization from Natural Resources Canada.

Canadian residents do not need a permit from Natural Resources Canada to import:

small arms sporting ammunition up to a maximum of 5,000 rounds;

percussion primers, up to a quantity of 5,000;

empty primed cartridge cases, up to a quantity of 5,000; and

propellants (smokeless and black powder), up to a maximum of 8 kilograms, (17.66 pounds).
Within these limits, non-residents can import 200 rounds duty free for hunting purposes, or up to 1,500 rounds duty free for use at a recognized competition.

You can make arrangements to import larger quantities through a Canadian shooting association, committee, or federation for team practice and competition at meets. For information on permits to import quantities of ammunition in excess of those mentioned above, contact:

Explosives Regulatory Division
Natural Resources Canada
15th floor
580 Booth Street
Ottawa ON K1A 0E4

Telephone: (613) 943-0206
Fax: (613) 995-0480

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4227/rc4227-e.html#P176_9159
 
viper7 said:
Ammunition
Both Canadians and non-residents may import sporting and competitive ammunition for their personal use, but if they want to import hollow-point ammunition labelled for use in handguns, they need written authorization from Natural Resources Canada.

Canadian residents do not need a permit from Natural Resources Canada to import:

small arms sporting ammunition up to a maximum of 5,000 rounds;

percussion primers, up to a quantity of 5,000;

empty primed cartridge cases, up to a quantity of 5,000; and

propellants (smokeless and black powder), up to a maximum of 8 kilograms, (17.66 pounds).
Within these limits, non-residents can import 200 rounds duty free for hunting purposes, or up to 1,500 rounds duty free for use at a recognized competition.

You can make arrangements to import larger quantities through a Canadian shooting association, committee, or federation for team practice and competition at meets. For information on permits to import quantities of ammunition in excess of those mentioned above, contact:

Explosives Regulatory Division
Natural Resources Canada
15th floor
580 Booth Street
Ottawa ON K1A 0E4

Telephone: (613) 943-0206
Fax: (613) 995-0480

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4227/rc4227-e.html#P176_9159
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This satisfies the Canadian Government only...

There are US laws to consider as well
 
StoneHorse said:
Then I guess you must have a US export permit.;)

Q4. I want to buy parts in the US for my firearm and import them into Canada.
A4. The US controls on the export of firearms extends to parts also. For small orders worth less than US$100.00 the US Department of State allows an exemption from the export licence. This exemption, however, does not cover ‘significant’ parts which includes; barrels, slides, cylinders, bolts, frames and receivers. It should be noted that there is no equivalent exemption offered by the Department of Commerce for shotgun parts. Further, there is no exemption for ammunition or ammunition components. Canadian importers should follow the procedure outlined in Q1 (above) to import parts not exempted.
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Last time I checked BRASS is not gun parts. To answer you question yes I do have access to export permits. And before you ask I do have import permits in place.

Helo Josko. Not to worry Josko never step on friends toes ( I know you we not worred but just wanted to say it ).

On another note hopfully you will be seeing the work of a hot up and comming new gun smith Dan Bedell trained.
 
MOBILE 1. Are you telling us that a brass pistol case is NOT a component of ammunition?
[Further, there is no exemption for ammunition or ammunition components]
 
MOBILE 1 said:
Last time I checked BRASS is not gun parts. To answer you question yes I do have access to export permits. And before you ask I do have import permits in place.

Helo Josko. Not to worry Josko never step on friends toes ( I know you we not worred but just wanted to say it ).

On another note hopfully you will be seeing the work of a hot up and comming new gun smith Dan Bedell trained.
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M-1 I am not worried you know me, I do this for a minimum of profit it usually just covers the cost of paper work.
As for he BRASS you are correct it is not a gun part but it is a part of ammunition component. It is not the Canadian Government all they want you to do is declare what you have and pay the tax, you have to worry if you get stopped on the US side...Uncle Sam considers this smuggling and they will put you ass in jail.

I don't spend time every year renewing my permits for nothing.


ps; good luck on G smithing
 
WHYLOOK said:
Unprimed brass OK to bring accross Border but you nust declare and pay GST, etc.

For Canadian supply, you can contact Wolf Bullets in Kingston, Ontario or Double Tap Sports for Starline.
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The export of Brass primed or un primed ,Primers and powder requires a US State Dept Export permit to be issued proir to any shipping out of the US
 
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