4 reasons why North Koreas AK variant is just dumb

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Atomic tomfoolery aside, the real danger from NOKO seems to be their ability to completely destroy the city of Seoul in about 18 seconds just using regular fixed artillery. You might think the rifle has artillery of its own but what do you know, it's the 150 rd magazine.

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4 reasons why North Korea’s AK variant is just dumb

Eric Milzarski

Posted On July 01, 2022 05:03:10

Plenty of care and thought must go into manufacturing a standard-issue rifle to field with the fourth-largest standing army in the world. To find success, you must be concerned with the ease of mass production, reliability in the field, mobility and ease of use, and the lethality it offers the troops.

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With that in mind, there’s only one benefit to the Type 88-2 variant of the AK-74 used by the North Korean Army: It’s cheap.


The AK-74 is the go-to weapon among former Soviet states and Eastern European nations because it can be easily produced and performs well in the hands of troops. North Korea created the Type 88-2 entirely within their own country and made plenty of useless tweaks to a proven design.

1. Ease of mass production

The Type 88-2 is cheap and it makes sense that a warmongering nation stuck with tech from over 60 years ago needs to cut corners when creating new stuff. The collapsible buttstock on the Type 88-2 is designed to fold over the top of the upper receiver. Folding stocks are common among many smaller-caliber SMGs, but on a fully-automatic carbine, it’s kinda worthless in both positions.

The collapsible buttstock is said to be small enough that the iron sights aren’t obstructed when collapsed. That alone is a terrible idea for accurate use while going full-auto. It also means that if the stock is extended, it wouldn’t have any support to handle the weapon as it fires.


4 reasons why North Korea’s AK variant is just dumb

And that’s not even the dumbest part. (Photo by DEFCON Warning System)

2. Reliability in the field

At first glance of the Type 88-2, the most obvious “WTF?” is the helical magazine that is said to hold 150 5.45x39mm rounds*. Keep in mind, the PP-19 Bizon also uses as high-capacity, helical magazine and isn’t without its minor flaws, but it holds 64 9mm rounds.


At a slightly lower rate of fire and with much larger rounds, the Type 88-2 is likely much more prone to jamming and feed failures. The magazine extends almost to the muzzle and is also attached to the under-barrel rail. Magazine swaps would be a pain in the ass as you connect a heavy magazine at two spots.

4 reasons why North Korea’s AK variant is just dumb
Ounces make pounds… (KCNA)

3. Mobility and ease of use

Balance is important to maintaining accurate fire. The weight distribution must be even throughout a weapon to maintain tight shot grouping. The helical magazine of the Type 88-2 and the overall weight of 5.45x39mm rounds* will cause the center of balance shifts back slightly after each round is fired. Fully-automatic rifles naturally kick up during sustained fire. Improper weight distribution will send the kick higher.

The size of the magazine also prohibits any sort of forward grip. The only way this weapon would accurately fire is if the troop was in the prone position and could rest the rifle on the ground.

4 reasons why North Korea’s AK variant is just dumb

Then again, the North Korean Ninja Turtles aren’t known for proper weapon discipline. (KCNA)

4. Actual power

Type 88-2s are unique to North Korea and not much is truly known about the weapon since it hasn’t left the Hermit Kingdom. Nearly everything known is a mix of speculation, reverse engineering from photographs, and knowledge of the standard AK-74.

That being said, everything about the design of the Type 88-2 just seems to have been done to cut every possible corner.

Writer’s Note: The article originally described the Type 88-2 as being chambered in 7.62mm when in reality it uses 5.45mm.


Feature image: Korean soldiers parading carrying the Type 68 variant, rather than the Type 88 (Wikimedia Commons)



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Since Korea is a close ally of China, I would think that Chinese designer 's could have helped in the design
Remember, Chinese do engineering and can manufacturer anything that you are willing to buy
M14 rifles, 45 Government pistols, etc
 
Ok the author doesn't fire full auto much.

With that mag on i bet it stays right the #### on target, the muzzle climb is probably non exsistent.
Nothing wrong with that folding stock.
That mag is the grip.

I think the main issue is the mag reliability.

But the mag even makes sence... troop gets two... one on the gun, one in the pack or a sling... suddenly the tac vest doesn't require mag pouches...budget cuts..
 
Bet they would sell well in America!
Just need a couple of working examples, set of drawnings and you
could be making them in America
 
This should be the title so people don't waste the time reading this horse ####.

"Type 88-2s are unique to North Korea and not much is truly known about the weapon since it hasn’t left the Hermit Kingdom. Nearly everything known is a mix of speculation"...
 
This should be the title so people don't waste the time reading this horse ####.

"Type 88-2s are unique to North Korea and not much is truly known about the weapon since it hasn’t left the Hermit Kingdom. Nearly everything known is a mix of speculation"...

Aw jeeze. Well, Americans at least could make a basic test of the idea by hanging a big metal tube with 150 rounds in it on an AK 74 and seeing how it handles. Or for that matter you could do that with any rifle. Me, having had a look, I don't feel I have to.
 
Atomic tomfoolery aside, the real danger from NOKO seems to be their ability to completely destroy the city of Seoul in about 18 seconds just using regular fixed artillery.

That’s complete BS. They have very limited artillery that’s able to hit even the outskirts of Seoul. Seoul is over 600km square.
 
That’s complete BS. They have very limited artillery that’s able to hit even the outskirts of Seoul. Seoul is over 600km square.

Oh good. I guess you know, but when most of us hear the artillery thing we get concerned considering that downtown Seoul is only 23 km from the border.
 
They have 4,800 medium range pieces good for 25 k distance
950 pieces long range pieces, good for hitting Greater Seoul
And, That's what South Korea knows about
I am certain they are building a lot more since Biden's remarks
 
Oh good. I guess you know, but when most of us hear the artillery thing we get concerned considering that downtown Seoul is only 23 km from the border.

First there's a DMZ that's demilitarized, and then you know they obviously can't just line up artillery pieces side by side on the edge of the border. And even if they decided to use their artillery to target the city, SK will be using theirs for counterbattery which would take quite a toll. Their long range tubes that can seriously menace Seoul require RAP to do so which are likely in short supply and have a dubious reliability record. If they were ever to attack wasting their resources on trying to flatten Seoul would be a close to best case scenario for SK, kind of like the Germans focusing on bombing civilians later in the blitz, and sparing the critical airfields, radars, etc.
 
Aw jeeze. Well, Americans at least could make a basic test of the idea by hanging a big metal tube with 150 rounds in it on an AK 74 and seeing how it handles. Or for that matter you could do that with any rifle. Me, having had a look, I don't feel I have to.

Nothing against you Big Bad.

All that "info" to finish with mix of speculation and not truly known about it.
 
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