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Hey,

Anyone know of places in Canada to buy PMC's 40-65WCF ammo? Ellwood Epps has a few boxes in Orillia, Ontario but it's $50 for a box a 20! That's the only place I know of. It can be bought for $10in the US...frustrating.
Thanks!
 
Reloading has a lot of advantages besides having ammo. You'll be using ammo that's tailored to your rifle. Your accuracy will go up.
Epp's isn't listing brass. That doesn't mean they don't have any though. Midway lists Starline brass though. $49.99US per 100.
Go buy a copy of Cartridge Conversions.
 
sunray said:
Reloading has a lot of advantages besides having ammo. You'll be using ammo that's tailored to your rifle. Your accuracy will go up.
Epp's isn't listing brass. That doesn't mean they don't have any though. Midway lists Starline brass though. $49.99US per 100.
Go buy a copy of Cartridge Conversions.
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You can make 40/65 from 45/70 very easily.
Epps usually has the head stamped brass however.
If you are going to get into BPCR hand loading, you would be wise to buy a copy of Paul Mathews' book on the subject.
he is a very high authority on the subject, and has detailed recipes fopr grease cookie, bullet lube, lead mixes, etc.

very informative.
I shoot 577 Snider, 577/450 martini ,40/65 and 45/70 with black and Pyro BTW....
Cat
 
Hey guys,
Sorry it took me so long to respond. Just landed down here at my sisters place in Illinois. Oh the things I'd like to bring back with me if I could!!
Anyway, Thanks for the info on the book. I was definetley looking to pick up a good book to get me started in re-loading as it's new to me.
Also, the 40-65 came with a set of CB dies, (3 piece set), so that helps. I also have around 70 bullets, so it's a start. Just have to figure out what else I need and start doing some reading/shopping.
Yeah, it actually does sound like fun, and I'm looking forward to learning...and then shooting the old 86.
Thanks for all the help.
Matt
 
"...pick up a good book..." Cartridge Conversions tells you how and what existing brass to use to make you're own brass.
"...came with a set of CB dies..." That's great. Finding dies could have been an issue. Get a copy of The ABC's of Reloading too. It's a beginner's how-to. Buy it at home though. No sense paying in USD for a book you can get in your local gun shop.
Reloadersnest has data. There's data for a 'cowboy' load on the IMR powder page too. The trick will be finding more .409" bullets.
Add the W's. .reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=85
 
Hey,

409? The bullets and die that came with the gun are .406. The owner had got the gear and reloaded some, but I don't think he ever tried them out. You think 409 is what I'll want to be using? I guess I need to get it "slugged"...I just found out what that term actually meant the other day. I guess if that's the case, the 406 dies, and bullets won't do much good eh?
 
Slug the bore to determine correct size.
40-65 Ballard used .403" and original 40-65 Winchester was .406".
Most newer made rifles are bored to use .408" jacketed, .410" cast bullets.
Regards, DaveF.
 
"...409?..." Looked on a reloading page. It said .409" bullets. When I looked again, just now, I'm seeing that you can use bullets from .406" to .410" and that the barrels can measure .411". Of course, I can't find the one that said .409" now.
Slugging the bore wouldn't be a bad idea, but you don't need to have somebody slug it for you. Just hammer one of the bullets you have, assuming they're cast, through the barrel with a brass rod and a plastic mallet and measure the result with a micrometer. You bullets will expand enough to give you a measurement.
 
Jacketed .406 bullets should work; they're more forgiving of bore diameter and condition, often, than are lead bullets, or so I've heard.
I noted that Hawk bullets makes .406 and .408 jacketed and recommends both for the .40-65 Win.
 
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