40s&w target load

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hi reloding gurus, need your experience.

i am trying to test 40s&w target load with campro 180gr fmj rn, longshot powder.
while hodgdon gives a manageable range between 6.3 and 7.5, hornady sets out between 4.8gr and 7.5gr. has anyone tried the low 5.xgr? thanks.
oh, the guns will be mp40, g22 and hk30l
 
hi reloding gurus, need your experience.

i am trying to test 40s&w target load with campro 180gr fmj rn, longshot powder.
while hodgdon gives a manageable range between 6.3 and 7.5, hornady sets out between 4.8gr and 7.5gr. has anyone tried the low 5.xgr? thanks.
oh, the guns will be mp40, g22 and hk30l

I use longshot its roughly 180 grain campro bullet and 5.4 grains for longshot for ipsc major load will give you pf of 170-175. 6.3 Will be a really hot load, 7.5 you better have a bull barel.
 
Interesting. Not sure why hodgdon lists a hot load as a starting load. Not that I doubt what you said because that was also my experience with 9mm and 45acp data, the low end of hodgdon data is usually hotter than wolf reload. Maybe they want us to use more powder. :)
Thanks. In that case, I will set my starting load at 5.0 with 0.2 incremental and experiment from there.



I use longshot its roughly 180 grain campro bullet and 5.4 grains for longshot for ipsc major load will give you pf of 170-175. 6.3 Will be a really hot load, 7.5 you better have a bull barel.
 
Recently started working with LS in 40S&W since I have a bunch of the powder and enjoy shooting stout loads. Went as high as 7gn of LS with Ares 180gn pc bullets and found that to have plenty of oomph and accuracy was better than when using soft loads of HP-38 and Clays. I'd say with the 7gn loads I was shooting you wouldn't want them for speed and accuracy since there is just a touch of muzzle lift.
 
went to range today and tried out from 5.1gr to 5.9gr in 0.2 increment with g22 and mp40. 5.1 was really soft and the casing felt barely flying out of the gun. from 5.5 to 5.9, the recoil felt just right and were all quite accurate. will stay @ 5.5gr for now. Thanks again!

I use longshot its roughly 180 grain campro bullet and 5.4 grains for longshot for ipsc major load will give you pf of 170-175. 6.3 Will be a really hot load, 7.5 you better have a bull barel.
 
Below, a very good article on "Lite" loads for the 40 S&W.


Make Right With a “.40 Lite”
Light-recoiling .40 S&W loads for action shooting
By Paul Scarlata


http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammo/ammunition_40lite_091806/

Below my .40 Lite load with Rainier plated bullets.

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thanks. i read that article before posting there because,

1. it doesn't have the direct answer i need for my bullet/powder/recipe combination.
2. it's a little too complicated for me at the moment as I only want something works for my gun as is, not to swap out spring etc. maybe one day when I do ISPC/IDPA AND I am to be so good that the slight difference in those fine details will affect my shooting. That won't be any time soon, not in a couple years as the best I could do for practice is once per week(not even considering out-of-town vacations).

what was the distance you were shooting? with the 5.5gr longshot, I am very close to this in 15 meters, beyond that, I need tons more practice and a better eyesight(I am nearsighted without glasses). Sigh....



Below, a very good article on "Lite" loads for the 40 S&W.


Make Right With a “.40 Lite”
Light-recoiling .40 S&W loads for action shooting
By Paul Scarlata


http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammo/ammunition_40lite_091806/

Below my .40 Lite load with Rainier plated bullets.

40SampW001_zpsfc7e7b54.jpg
 
maybe one day when I do ISPC/IDPA AND I am to be so good that the slight difference in those fine details will affect my shooting.

FYI, running a minor Standard 40 load in IPSC (130 PF) and running a major 40 load (180PF) is night and day.
Anything but a slight difference, it is vastly more difficult.
Enjoy
 
I am not anywhere near competition level by any stretch, but as far as recoil, I have no problem with up to 44mag. and this 5.5-5.9gr longshot all felt lighter than the wolf reload I bought which I have been shooting just fine. so, it's not a big deal at all even though it reaches major as per Happypillz.

FYI, running a minor Standard 40 load in IPSC (130 PF) and running a major 40 load (180PF) is night and day.
Anything but a slight difference, it is vastly more difficult.
Enjoy
 
I just recently went through the same process, but I was looking for increased accuracy more than anything else.

I started using factory loaded off the shelf, and really couldn't hit anything at 25 meters at all. Shortened to 10 meters with little improvement, sort of shrugged it off as my inability to shoot a pistol.

Started into reloading pistol rounds (have done rifle for years previous), and the only powder I could find was long shot. Little reading I did was that it was one of the few powders that really made the 40 pop, so to speak. Making a classic error, rather than starting at the bottom of the range load and working up, I started close to the top end 7.0-7.5. While there were no pressure signs, it sure did pop, and there was a lot of muzzle lift and it threw the shells a good long ways. Accuracy was so bad, I was seriously contemplating trading in for a wheel gun or a pistol in another caliber. It was difficult to even hit a 2 foot square piece of paper at 10 yards, I'd average 4 out of 10 rounds on paper, spread all over like a 2 year old throwing rocks.

Fast forward, I talk to a guy who has a few different powders (blue dot and unique), and offered me enough to try and few loads to see if I had any improvements. (Also shooting 180 grain fmj's). So, I started at the bottom for the recipes for those and worked up. Out of curiosity (and boredom), I loaded some extra long shot loads at the very low end of 4.8 up to around 6.2.

There was no improvement on the bottom end with the longshot, but that changed as I crested over 5.0. 5.3-5.9 yielded to me the best accuracy with light muzzle jump. I've dialled my powder to measure 5.5 knowing that it's not always precise, but will still deliver me an accurate load I can shoot all day. PS, could not match the same accuracy with blue dot or unique. This was all done with Remington brass.
 
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