41 Colt 1899 revolver? Or Colt 1889 revolver? Or 1892 that is mislablled?

[NorthWoods22]

Does anyone know if this is a antique Colt 1889 revolver or if it's a Colt 1892 variant?

The FRT table from Armalytics shows that all the Colt 1889 revolvers in 41 colt are antique. But the listing has it as a Colt 1899, which puts it as non-antique? Any experts here can chime in?

 

[rnrogers]

In 1889 Colt introduced the world's first double action, swing-out cylinder revolver. This design was so effective and strong, it became the standard for all double action designs that followed.
The 1889 was named the New Navy Model of 1889. When the design was also bought by the Army in 1892 the name was changed to the Colt New Army & Navy Model.
Following standard Colt practice, the 1889 was quickly followed up by improved versions each with it's own model number as the Models 1894, 1895, 1896, 1901, and 1903.
Models 1892, 1894, 1895, 1896, 1901, 1903
New Army & Navy
Year Serial Number
1892 1
1893 10000
1894 11300
1895 15100
1896 68000
1897 77000
1898 91200
1899 115000
1900 131000
1901 148000
1902 180000
1903 193000
1904 225800
1905 241000
1906 256000
1907 272000-291001

Hope this helps it all depends on your serial number ,

 

[Derv]

By the lack of notches on the cylinder, it looks like a mislabelled M1889 to me.

 

[tokguy]

By the lack of notches on the cylinder, it looks like a mislabelled M1889 to me.

That is a fact Derv. Good catch.

 

[MalishMan]

It's mislabeled when it's supposed to be m1889.The one in the image doesn't have a notch, which is used to lock the cylinder from rotating while moving with your gun in the holster. This is what revolver owners mean when they don't want you to swing-close the revolver's cylinder. You'll break their cylinder locking mechanism. Since the revolver in the picture doesn't have one, you can safely slam its cylinder with one hand swing.

The cylinder lock notch was added by Colt after the US Army requested, cause if the cylinder moved while traveling, it could move into a spent round chamber, wasting valuable firing response time when faced against an enemy because a soldier would have to cycle through a spent round before firing.

 

[tokguy]

It's mislabeled when it's supposed to be m1889.The one in the image doesn't have a notch, which is used to lock the cylinder from rotating while moving with your gun in the holster. This is what revolver owners mean when they don't want you to swing-close the revolver's cylinder. You'll break their cylinder locking mechanism. Since the revolver in the picture doesn't have one, you can safely slam its cylinder with one hand swing.

The cylinder lock notch was added by Colt after the US Army requested, cause if the cylinder moved while traveling, it could move into a spent round chamber, wasting valuable firing response time when faced against an enemy because a soldier would have to cycle through a spent round before firing.

I try to be polite on here. But don't say stuff like that man...that is Sunray quality advice.
You don't slam cylinders shut because it bends the crane.
And they upgraded to the 92 series because a sailor dropped his 89 and died from the AD. It called was an 1889 Navy, had nothing to do with the Army IIRC.
Just...no.
Politely of course.

And if I am mistaken, beg pardon on the oversight.

 

[MosinMan13]

Yeah ^ I have to agree. A couple really educated folks already solved this a couple posts up, this was pretty well case closed unless anyone had something different to add that was missed previously.

Soliciting bad advice that highlights your lack of understanding on the matter certainly isn’t an improvement to that, the community or the forum.

I believe they used to call this “beating the dead horse”

 

[tokguy]

In 1889 Colt introduced the world's first double action, swing-out cylinder revolver. This design was so effective and strong, it became the standard for all double action designs that followed.
The 1889 was named the New Navy Model of 1889. When the design was also bought by the Army in 1892 the name was changed to the Colt New Army & Navy Model.
Following standard Colt practice, the 1889 was quickly followed up by improved versions each with it's own model number as the Models 1894, 1895, 1896, 1901, and 1903.
Models 1892, 1894, 1895, 1896, 1901, 1903
New Army & Navy
Year Serial Number
1892 1
1893 10000
1894 11300
1895 15100
1896 68000
1897 77000
1898 91200
1899 115000
1900 131000
1901 148000
1902 180000
1903 193000
1904 225800
1905 241000
1906 256000
1907 272000-291001

Hope this helps it all depends on your serial number ,

I've seen '89's that were machined for the upgraded 92 parts. The 92 is still an odd duck, works marginally Ok at best that I've seen.