.410 rounds where to buy?

00 buck is useless in a .410, you can only get 4 balls into a case. The 000 buck is larger in diameter and loads 4 of them inline. There is no penetration or practical use for any of them. I've loaded everything possible into a .410 shell and it couldnt kill anything larger than a house cat. .410 is great for shooting partridge, and that is the only thing I load them for.
 
fiddler said:
00 buck is useless in a .410, you can only get 4 balls into a case. The 000 buck is larger in diameter and loads 4 of them inline. There is no penetration or practical use for any of them. I've loaded everything possible into a .410 shell and it couldnt kill anything larger than a house cat. .410 is great for shooting partridge, and that is the only thing I load them for.
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What he said....good for squirrels, birds, and the occasional annoying house guest LOL. Not much point in loading such big balls is such a small shell. Largest I run in a 20 ga. is 0000 Buck and #4 bird shot.
 
The slugs are just to toy with in a bolt action at the range, i need some shot to run off coyotes. I have suitable 12g rounds and rifle as well but my wife wont shoot larger calibers, so any reccomendations would be accepted graciously.
 
nagol said:
Looking for bulk 00 and/ or slugs in bulk, anyone have a source?
Reliable has but would prefer an ontario dealer...
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I would be curious at this point and probably everybody else reading this thread as to why you want double ought buck and slugs for a .410 and in bulk at that. It is purely useless, and in most jurisdiction's illegal for hunting. In my opinion it may be considered for an indoor 30ft max self defence load at best.

I see while writing this you posted your intended need. As a suggestion I bought my wife a Ruger 10/22 carbine with a small red dot sight on it for running off unwanted critters, she also has 3 Rottweiler's that usually take care of the job, but some of the timber wolves here are not intimidated by Rotty's, in fact they view them as lunch. So far a short feisty women in a house coat with fuzzy slippers whizzing 22LR at them as has deterred any culprits with no resultant injuries to all parties involved.
 
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Surplus Enfield .410 Ball is around.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/410-inch-round-ball-ammo.html

The pressures are pretty high, so you need to be using a well made .410 for it. It will chamber and shoot in any .410 though.

This is ammo that was made for prison guards in India post WWII. They converted a bunch of Enfields to single shot .410, and then formed .303 brass for them. I fireform my own .410 Brass out of spent .303 Brass, and then reload with whatever cocktail I feel like.

One thing I've tried is using .40 cal handgun bullets - the right weight but a bit small in diameter - and using shot-cups as a sabot. Accurate to within a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood at 25 yards (so, not even close to accurate), but kinda fun to shoot anyway.

Cheers.
 
grelmar said:
Surplus Enfield .410 Ball is around.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/410-inch-round-ball-ammo.html

The pressures are pretty high, so you need to be using a well made .410 for it. It will chamber and shoot in any .410 though.

This is ammo that was made for prison guards in India post WWII. They converted a bunch of Enfields to single shot .410, and then formed .303 brass for them. I fireform my own .410 Brass out of spent .303 Brass, and then reload with whatever cocktail I feel like.

One thing I've tried is using .40 cal handgun bullets - the right weight but a bit small in diameter - and using shot-cups as a sabot. Accurate to within a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood at 25 yards (so, not even close to accurate), but kinda fun to shoot anyway.

Cheers.
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Did you see the note on the web page advising not use these in 410 shotguns?
 
nagol said:
The slugs are just to toy with in a bolt action at the range, i need some shot to run off coyotes. I have suitable 12g rounds and rifle as well but my wife wont shoot larger calibers, so any reccomendations would be accepted graciously.
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maybe look for low recoil 12 or 20g buckshot. My girl will shoot the low recoil stuff, but she is quite small and won't shoot regular rounds.
 
grelmar said:
Yes, I saw the note and if your read my entire comment it would be clear what my stance on the issue is.
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do you mean this part??
"The pressures are pretty high, so you need to be using a well made .410 for it. It will chamber and shoot in any .410 though."
 
Wow, one real answer and then a bunch of guys telling you not to shoot .410 at all... like that has anything to do with anything. Good grief, guys, everybody's so quick to dispense their wisdom. The guy isn't asking for a hunting lesson or a tactical self defense primer. I'm pretty sure the OP has heard of these new-fangled things called larger gauge shotguns, rifles that shoot big heavy bullets, etc.

Question was about where to buy .410 slugs and buckshot in bulk... well, I don't think you will find any retailer cutting you much of a bulk deal on .410. All the big corporate places have it: Bass Pro, Cabela's, Wholesale Sports, Canadian Tire. If a particular store doesn't have it in stock, they will get it for you. Same goes for pretty much every other gun store in the country. For site sponsors, SFRC has some 1775fps 1/4oz. slugs at $7.95 (for 5), and they have a 15% sale on this weekend. They have some #4, but seem to be sold out of pretty much everything else.
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_108_134

My buddies at Reliable... they show the 2 1/2" 1/5oz. Sluggers, at $7.99 a box, buying the 250 round case only gets it down to $7.20. Short of a sale, that is about as good as it is going to get. There isn't much margin on this stuff for the retailers.
https://www.reliablegun.com/en/shotgun-ammunition?specs=35

The prices in the corporate places are going to be about the same: $7.99 type of thing for slugs. It is on the fancy stuff, Judge/Governor-type loads, PDX1 that the prices are all over the place and you have to shop around.
 
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Pick up a rifle chambered in 17hmr, 17 wsm, 22wmr, 22 hornet, 204 ruger, 222 rem, 223 rem.

All are small relatively low on recoil and within reasonable ranges are enough or more than enough for coyotes.
 
If someone really wants slugs for their 410, get someone to load them for you. You don't even have to cast the slug, you just press it or pound it into shape from a lead ball. 000 buckshot is even easier, it takes 4 in a row in a 3 inch shell. It doesn't cost 20 cents to load a .410 shell , regardless of what you put in it.


As long as one is satisfied with the ineffectiveness of the load, all is happy.
 
petew said:
do you mean this part??
"The pressures are pretty high, so you need to be using a well made .410 for it. It will chamber and shoot in any .410 though."
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Correct.

I wouldn't run them through, say, a Boito, which aren't that well made to start with. But there are some heavy walled barrel .410's out there with strong receivers that can easily take it.

In my foolish youth I chambered a .303 hunting round in a Cooey .410 and fired it off - none the worse for wear, and a .303 will develop a LOT higher chamber pressure than these surplus rounds.

The warning the dealers put on these rounds is largely CYA'ism. The pressures are higher than typical .410 slugs, so it's "out of spec" with the standards. The other issue is that they're 2.5" rounds (actually a little under 2.5") and nobody makes 2.5" chamber .410's anymore, just 2.75" and 3" chambers.

It comes down to nobody has done any empirical testing with these cartridges in standard .410 shotguns, so no one wants the liability of selling these cartridges specifically for those guns. Especially with Semi-Auto .410's - which would fall into the category of a "very bad idea" - you'd over-gas the bejesus out of it.

They will, however, chamber and shoot. Whether your particular .410 is up to the pressure loads is a judgment call on your part.
 
I picked up a few boxes of these for the wife to try out in her .410,, she loves them,lol, they blow a nice hole in whatever she wants but they are not cheap!
 
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