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So tell me, is there such thing as an accurate and hard-hitting slug load for the 410 shotgun? I'm not impressed with the soft lead found in most loadings.....anybody have a reccomendation?
.410 slug loads....
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The traditional 1/5 oz. .410 slug weighs about 87.5 grains, starts with a muzzle velocity of 1815 fps, and generates 640 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy.
If this isn't good enough, you should buy a 12 gauge.
I'm not aware of any special sabot loadings for a .410 and I've looked. There are none listed on either Winchester or Federal's website. I don't think what your looking for exists. Not in a .410 at least.
With that being said, I like shooting the regular slugs from my 410. I think it's hilarious that they call some of them a 'hollow point". All it looks like is a small, circular indentation.
If this isn't good enough, you should buy a 12 gauge.
I'm not aware of any special sabot loadings for a .410 and I've looked. There are none listed on either Winchester or Federal's website. I don't think what your looking for exists. Not in a .410 at least.
With that being said, I like shooting the regular slugs from my 410. I think it's hilarious that they call some of them a 'hollow point". All it looks like is a small, circular indentation.
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I had a Lee Enfield (SMLE) in .410 it was very accurate and shot to point of aim. I considered it adequate for rabbit sized game. ALL commerial loads are of the same construction. The soft lead construction and light weight compared to 12, 16 and 20 gauge loadings hamper it's effectivness.
Just my two cents Darryl
Just my two cents Darryl
How big do the rabbits get in NW Ont that you have to shoot them with a .410 slug?
Wrong Way
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I'm just thinking of a load to have in the survival gun. While I would never "hunt" larger game with a .410, it would be nice to know the capability is there should the need ever arise.
The loads I've tried: The problem isn't with speed...or weight....it's slug construction. Those slugs that you see everywhere virtually desintegrate on impact. Try and shoot one through a wet phone book....it's not good.
Is there such thing as a brenneke or similar for the .410?
The loads I've tried: The problem isn't with speed...or weight....it's slug construction. Those slugs that you see everywhere virtually desintegrate on impact. Try and shoot one through a wet phone book....it's not good.
Is there such thing as a brenneke or similar for the .410?
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Wrongway,I picked up some 410 brenneke slugs at a gun showin Port Perry.They look like they will do the same job aS A 44MAG will. 44's kill deer and bear regularily, also Mine(M6) is still not for sale especially with your "TIFFANY" sling!!! LOL JITC
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The 410 shoots 45 LC quite nicely if its slug weight you want.
I have also fired 44-40 form an old Cooey single shot.
Never seriously hunted anything with either of them.
All that being said if you were reloading i would try 45-70 500 slugs and see what you can do with them in the 410 case.
The Brenneke should be an excellent factory load.
Do your own homework and be your own judge as per the safety of any of the above !
The 410 shoots 45 LC quite nicely if its slug weight you want.
I have also fired 44-40 form an old Cooey single shot.
Never seriously hunted anything with either of them.
All that being said if you were reloading i would try 45-70 500 slugs and see what you can do with them in the 410 case.
The Brenneke should be an excellent factory load.
Do your own homework and be your own judge as per the safety of any of the above !
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Brennekes are solid and distinctly finned. Far better penetration . I,m not sure that any smooth bored shotgun can achieve a great deal of accuracy.
If I was looking for accuracy I would want a rifled barrel. Hell, Why not just use a rifle in the first place ?
Brennekes are solid and distinctly finned. Far better penetration . I,m not sure that any smooth bored shotgun can achieve a great deal of accuracy.
If I was looking for accuracy I would want a rifled barrel. Hell, Why not just use a rifle in the first place ?
Most common 410 slugs around today are rifled, so firing from a smoothbore gives some degree of accuracy. I have an 18.5" cyl bbl on my 410 and have no problem hitting a cereal box at 30 yds. That's without sights. I read of a guy who does a lot of whitetail hunting with a 9410 Packer quite successfully. His blog/webpage is on the net somewhere if you search. (can't recall the web address) He did some experimenting with Brennekkes and loading others.
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I would...if you could find me a rifle that shoots birdshot, .22LR, and 45 slugs, is completely rust-proof, folds completely in half, has ammo storage in the stock and weighs about 4 lbs
See the gun in my sig. IMO, the best survival gun on the planet. Not a fine huinter, but nothing comes close utility-wise.
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Utility being the key word . Now I understand . Check out the Brenneke site .
Just type in "Brenneke shotgun slugs".
I would...if you could find me a rifle that shoots birdshot, .22LR, and 45 slugs, is completely rust-proof, folds completely in half, has ammo storage in the stock and weighs about 4 lbs
See the gun in my sig. IMO, the best survival gun on the planet. Not a fine huinter, but nothing comes close utility-wise.
Utility being the key word . Now I understand . Check out the Brenneke site .
Just type in "Brenneke shotgun slugs".
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I purchased an M6 a couple of years ago for the same reason you have yours, but I sold it, because I could not get any foster slug to shoot groups smaller than the shotgun would pattern. Most groups were actually a greater spread than shot pellets. That includes Remington, Imperial, Federal and Winchester, 2-1/2" and 3". It would not keep all slugs on a coyote sized target at 10 yards!!
I wish I had tried one thing before I sold it. Sellier & Bellot, Winchester and Aquila make some nifty 00 buckshot loads, in 3 pellet (2-1/2") or 5 pellet (3") configuration. EACH PELLET has more penetrating ability than the hollow foster slugs commonly available. The buckshot loads may be just the ticket for .410 food foraging for largish game, or if you find yourself in a self-defence situation with your pipsqueak gun, buckshot would seem quite practical compared to slugs. At 20 yards or less anyway, especially considering the accuracy issues I encountered. Have fun with your scout, they are a great little unit!
I wish I had tried one thing before I sold it. Sellier & Bellot, Winchester and Aquila make some nifty 00 buckshot loads, in 3 pellet (2-1/2") or 5 pellet (3") configuration. EACH PELLET has more penetrating ability than the hollow foster slugs commonly available. The buckshot loads may be just the ticket for .410 food foraging for largish game, or if you find yourself in a self-defence situation with your pipsqueak gun, buckshot would seem quite practical compared to slugs. At 20 yards or less anyway, especially considering the accuracy issues I encountered. Have fun with your scout, they are a great little unit!
My M6 groups 1/4oz Federal and 1/5oz Winchester in 2" at 25yds Offhand. It does throw them about 6" high however but it's an easy snowball hold to get them on the money. I think it would be OK on deer at 50yds. As for buckshot it's would be great at close range but none of it is available in this neck of the woods.
I just found some info about a more potent big game style .410 slug in the slugshooters forum. Although it says to only use it in their specially designed barrels the heavy load consists of a 350gr slug going 1500fps. That would definitely take down a bear with ample penetration. The light load is the same projectile going 1250fps. As for whether these would stabilize in a smoothbore is anyone's guess.
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