410 slug project

XperienceDUDE

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So i have an old 410 that i will keep with me when i bushcraft in gaspésie. I will cut the barrel to 19 inch and cut the stock so the total lenght of 26 1/8 just so i am sure it is legal.

I want to reload 410 slug and was wondering if anyone knows a good mold i could use.

Here are the ones ive found so far that i think would work.

http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=40-110A-D.png

https://tatvcanada.com/?product=svarog-match-slug-mould-410

https://tatvcanada.com/?product=svarog-roundball-mould-410

I will reload using brass magtech cases 2.5" with large pistol primer and homemade wads with a punch, wich powder would ou recommend with recipe.

thanks
 
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I load Thug Slugs in brass cases they work great in my old El Fason ?? SxS
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pounder, what are you using for brass, blown out .303?

Can you tell us a bit about the load? Sorry for the hijack but I think it fits within the theme of the thread, I am intrigued by slug and round ball loads in the lowly .410
 
So not wanting to hijack the thread. This is a great book for info on slug loading including load data. I hesitate somewhat to posting load data,I use IMR4227 powder 14.0 - 18.0 grns. These loads are safe in my guns,Rem LP primers and Magtec brass. I use a roll crimper to and crimp just enough to hold the slug in place. This also does not seem to damage the brass. You also need over powder wad.
I know crappy pics sorry. These are a lot of fun and with the SxS gun it's sorta like a double rifle.
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pounder said:
So not wanting to hijack the thread. This is a great book for info on slug loading including load data. I hesitate somewhat to posting load data,I use IMR4227 powder 14.0 - 18.0 grns. These loads are safe in my guns,Rem LP primers and Magtec brass. I use a roll crimper to and crimp just enough to hold the slug in place. This also does not seem to damage the brass. You also need over powder wad.
I know crappy pics sorry. These are a lot of fun and with the SxS gun it's sorta like a double rifle.
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I will go with this

magtech brass with LP primer
Alliant 2400
Cast 120 grain slug
cork wads to have the slug sit high enought with overshot cardboard card and duco cement to hold it in place, with your book or experience can you tell me a load ?

I tried to find a 1/4 oz alliant 2400 load but came short
 
These are all the loads in my book,hope you can read them. You can see that this is not data for brass cases, there is very little if any data for brass cases. Google is your friend.
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It’s nice to experiment with slugs in 410, but in term of stopping power you’d be better equiped with Federal’s premium 5x000 buckshot. Each 000 buckshot ball is 70 grain, which makes a total of 350 gr per round. With a standard slug in a 410 being in the vicinity of 100gr, that’s a big difference... That’s just my opinion, but I’ve read on that subject quite a bit prior to buying a .22lr/.410 combo gun as an hiking/truck gun.
 
XperienceDUDE,

in the slug shooting community, there is one generally accepted rule .... and which is written in no manual:

If you have a published (pressure tested) recipe for a bird shot load, and you substitute the bird shot payload with a slug of equal weight ... then the max pressure of that load will be slightly less than what the pressure tested recipe indicates.

So it is generally acceptable to substitute the bird shot with a slug of equal weight, if all the other components are still the same.

Personally, when I build a new 12ga load I follow that rule, and I reduce the powder load by ca 10% just to be on the save side.

It is much easier to find published bird shot recipes ... :)

Hope this helps ....
 
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I've owned a 410 press since about the mid 80s and while I've played with countless loads, slugs, and buckshot, I can't say that I'm impressed with the energy of any such loads. Most factory loads for slugs are about 90 grains, and while I've made heavier loads they really don't produce much energy. My standard for measuring punch is to shoot into a few phone books or magazines and measure the penetration compared to other loads such as handgun, rim-fire or larger gauge slugs. However that said, my favorite home load is 4x 000 buckshot in a row. I use it for skunks at the farm.


I value the .410 for what it is, and its my of favorite little chicken gun for hunting but it has some pretty precise limitations. For small game and pests it will do fine but don't expect much if trying to put down anything bigger than a small dog.
 
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XperienceDUDE,

in the slug shooting community, there is one generally accepted rule .... and which is written in no manual:

If you have a published (pressure tested) recipe for a bird shot load, and you substitute the bird shot payload with a slug of equal weight ... then the max pressure of that load will be slightly less than what the pressure tested recipe indicates.

So it is generally acceptable to substitute the bird shot with a slug of equal weight, if all the other components are still the same.

Personally, when I build a new 12ga load I follow that rule, and I reduce the powder load by 10% just to be on the save side.

It is much easier to find published bird shot recipes ... :)

Hope this helps ....
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yup, it is what i found out too. I can't find any alliant 2400 1/4oz load tho. I emailed Alliant direct but I don't know if ill hear back from them.
 
XperienceDUDE said:
yup, it is what i found out too. I can't find any alliant 2400 1/4oz load tho. I emailed Alliant direct but I don't know if ill hear back from them.
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It might be easier to just get a bottle of a different powder and for which you can find a recipe.

I have ordered powders several times from the folks at X-Reload for example ... and they delivered fast ... they are in Quebec.

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During my foray in brass cased 410 I learned that much more powder is needed than the plastic shell recipes call for.
I would like to try the Svarrog March Mould 410 but the link above does not list any of diameter or weight.
I can't get any kind of accuracy with buckshot in my 410
Birdshot shoots fine though even though I've never attained factory velocities (but came close).
 
legi0n said:
During my foray in brass cased 410 I learned that much more powder is needed than the plastic shell recipes call for.
I would like to try the Svarrog March Mould 410 but the link above does not list any of diameter or weight.
I can't get any kind of accuracy with buckshot in my 410
Birdshot shoots fine though even though I've never attained factory velocities (but came close).
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its tha same as on ebay so round ball mold is .407" 93gr and the Match (pellet) design is .410" 117gr
 
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