.410 x 2 inch brass shot shell reloading

[bearhunter]

I've searched the web but can only find loads for 2 1/2 inch modern shot shells

I have a 1900 .410 single shot rifle, Belgian copy of something, chambered for .410 x 2inch.

From the looks of the bore, likely black powder and or corrosive/hot powder/primers were used in the original loadings.

I know I can use 44 magnum cases a short shell replacement but I have some .410 brass shot shell cases which I can shorten to length as well.

I'm on the look out for .410 wads or 44mag shot cups. I know I can make up fibre/paper wads but woule prefer modern plastic.

Some load suggestions would be appreciated. It's the load information I am having difficulty finding any information on, even in the reference books (many) I have on hand.

I'm not much of a shot shell hand loader so didn't get into the detail as much as I did with center firle rifle cartridges.

Some solid/experienced information would be appreciated.

TIA

 

[fiddler]

Just cut your wads to the length that you require. As long as the wad seals in front of the powder/gas, everything comes out the end of the barrel. Most slug guys regularly cut or modify the wads for their custom wad and buckshot loads.

 

[bearhunter]

Just cut your wads to the length that you require. As long as the wad seals in front of the powder/gas, everything comes out the end of the barrel. Most slug guys regularly cut or modify the wads for their custom wad and buckshot loads.

Thanx for this information.

My query as per loads comes about because I don't believe the action on this rifle is suitable for modern pressures.

Cutting down plastic shot shell hulls will also solve a lot of other issues, other than primers.

 

[oldrodder]

You can make perfectly acceptable brass .410 shells from .303 BR. or 30-40 Krag. I made mine using a mandrel to open up the case rather than fireforming. Worked great! Be sure to anneal the case 3/4" I load mine with smokeless powder. If I were to load with Black Powder, I would determine the weight of the shot charge: 1/2 oz, 5/8 oz ect. Drop it in the case and measure how much room it occupies in the case. Measure how much room is available in the case. Deduct the amount of room taken up by the shot. The result is the amount of room available for black powder. I would use FFg granulation. Adding a fiber wad will provide a little compression to the charge. This is nesesary to insure that no air space exists between the powder & shot charges. Install a milk carton wad on top of the shot and seal it with a drop of Crazy Glue. I haven't done this myself but I have used this protocol to arrive at a charge for my 40-60 Maynard and my 40-70 Sharps Straight.

 

[legi0n]

https://www.go2gbo.com/threads/410-brass-blackopowder-shot-shell-reloading.204133/

see post #7

 

[fiddler]

Thanx for this information.

My query as per loads comes about because I don't believe the action on this rifle is suitable for modern pressures.

Cutting down plastic shot shell hulls will also solve a lot of other issues, other than primers.

Your modern loads are larger because they are pushing more lead. If all you want is a half ounce of birdshot it should fit no problem with a low pressure charge.

 

[bearhunter]

Your modern loads are larger because they are pushing more lead. If all you want is a half ounce of birdshot it should fit no problem with a low pressure charge.

Thanx for all the information.

I have lots to go on from here and will make up some cases shortly.

Just what I didn't need right now, another ''project'' but what the hey, we only live once and have to enjoy as much of what we enjoy as possible, while we can.

 

[antiqueguy]

You want low pressure loads for sure. I’d go with either shortened .410 brass or .303 blown out really short cases can be made from .44-40 brass. Find a load for a straight walled plastic hull that’s low pressure and use that as a baseline.