44 mag caliber question

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Hello fellow friends, i am currently going through the steps to get myself a PAL. I am currently shopping around for the first firearm i may buy. I am thinking of getting a Puma 92 cambered in 44 mag. Now for my question:

I heard somewhere that 44 mag and 44 rem mag where diff calibers, but the search on the net did not turn up any evidence, so my question is, are they diff calibers? Thank you for your time.
 
Puma .44 Mag.

I have one of those critters, courtesy of Doc Rowland. With the full power 240 load, there is a sharp recoil from this light little carbine with a steel butplate. It will also shoot .44 Specials but lever guns generally do not like those semi-wadcutters....they don't seem to feed well, and sometime jam. Stick with jktd. bullets.....Want some fun, try the Rem. .44 Mag in 180 gr variety.....a big blast of flame from the bbl...........
 
semi wad cutter, style of bullet has a flat face to it but not a full diameter flat face like the WC wad cutter. target shooters prefer them for making nice clean cookie cutter holes.

other styles are HP hollow point
JHP Jacketed hollow point
FMJ full metal jacket
RN round nose
SP spire point
BT boat tail
ect, ect
 
Gun makers don't like promoting other companies. It is 308 Winchester, but it will be a cold day in hell before remington stamp that on one of thier rifles.

It is 44 Remington Magnum, so every other gun company just calls it 44 Mag.
 
The .44 mag. can have feed problems with the sharp edges/corners on SWC designs, as Keith designed his for revolvers. Other cast bullet designs feed perfectly, and the LBT designs esp. the LFN designs fed well and are more effective then jacketed due to wide meplat and heavy weight options up to 360 grs.
 
How about smaller calibre

TheRussian said:
Hello fellow friends, i am currently going through the steps to get myself a PAL. I am currently shopping around for the first firearm i may buy. I am thinking of getting a Puma 92 cambered in 44 mag. Now for my question:

I heard somewhere that 44 mag and 44 rem mag where diff calibers, but the search on the net did not turn up any evidence, so my question is, are they diff calibers? Thank you for your time.
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Hello Russian,

I am somewhat surprised that no one has suggested yet, that you might want to pick smaller calibre to start with.

Lot of people go to .22 to learn proper shooting form and improve their abilities.
That would be Ruger 10/22 in rifles, and Mark III or Browning Buck Mark in pistols.

If it is centre fire, then 9mm might be good starting point.
If you like polymer pistols Glock 17, and if you like steel CZ 75 comes to mind.


Welcome to the sport of shooting! :)
 
"...you might want to..." Not as big a deal with a rifle as it is with a handgun. A .22 will most assuredly cost a whole bunch less to shoot though. What you pay for 20 .44's(20 round boxes are rifle loads. 50 round boxes are handgun. Not all ammo makers do 20 round boxes though.) you can usually buy 500 .22's.
 
sunray said:
"...you might want to..." Not as big a deal with a rifle as it is with a handgun. A .22 will most assuredly cost a whole bunch less to shoot though. What you pay for 20 .44's(20 round boxes are rifle loads. 50 round boxes are handgun. Not all ammo makers do 20 round boxes though.) you can usually buy 500 .22's.
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I purchased "Winchester 44 Mag 240gr JSP, Box of 50 " with my SKS order from SFRC.
I purchased the 44 mag ammo so that I could at some point in time try out the ruger 44 (i assumed mag) that was in my grandfathers collection.

Did I buy the wrong ammo?

I only bothered because I assumed it would be cheaper buying it through them, and the extra shipping cost would be minimal considering everything else I had ordered.
 
sunray;4560444 Not as big a deal with a rifle as it is with a handgun.............. What you pay for 20 .44's.................. you can usually buy 500 .22's.[/QUOTE said:
Let me add to that, as a new shooter you could develop a flinch from a stronger blast and recoil that .44 makes.

Definitely start with something smaller and have one .44 firearm for thrills, if you must.
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My first handgun was a 44mag. I did buy a 22, it sits mostly un-used, maybe 200rnds, in the safe for the last 16years. And I still don't own a 9mm. I do, however own several handguns chambered in rifle cartridges. A 44 mag is a GREAT place to start in both rifle and handgun. IMHO.
 
lanis said:
Let me add to that, as a new shooter you could develop a flinch from a stronger blast and recoil that .44 makes.

Definitely start with something smaller and have one .44 firearm for thrills, if you must.
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OR you could still buy a .44 mag revolver and use lighter recoiling ammo in it. .44 Special ammo, for instance. It is perfectly safe to use .44 Special ammo in a .44 Magnum revolver, but not the other way 'round.

.44 Special ammo that is made for CAS (cowboy action shooting) will recoil remarkably less than .44 Mag ammo and would be well within the comfort zone for most new adult shooters.
 
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"...Did I buy the wrong ammo?..." Nope. It's just that some companies, primarily Remington, load rifle(a bit hotter) and handgun ammo. Either will do in a rifle. The rifle stuff will be fairly hot in a handgun though.
"....44 Special ammo..." Yep, but the .44 Special is expensive and not as easily found. Loading .44 Mag brass to .44 Special velocities works well though. Same idea as loading .357 brass to .38 Special velocities. Eliminates the lube gunk build up in the cylinders of as revolver and chamber of a rifle. Not a big deal though. The gunk comes out with regular cleaning.
 
Could someone tell me what magical powder they use to get more power for "rifle" 44 magnum? As far as I know, 22 gr of the old 2400 or 25 gr H110, with a 240gr keith SWC are as wild as 44magnum can get, both being fine for use in revolvers. I wouldn't hesitate for a split second to run "rifle" ammo in my Super Blackhawk. Course these are Elmer Keith's loads, some guy in marketting who writes "rifle" on a box and charges extra for it, surely knows more :rolleyes:
 
Well that's all nice suggestion's friends, but i did say i was getting a 44 mag Winchester rifle replica, not a hand gun, as that would require me to get a RPAL. Also, from what i could hear, the 44 mag's recoil is much less intensive in a rifle as it is in a handgun. In any case, i may just go with a cheap Mosin-Nagant or a 22lr rifle like you guys suggested, depending on the funds available at that time. I'll keep you guys informed.
 
sunray said:
"...Did I buy the wrong ammo?..." Nope. It's just that some companies, primarily Remington, load rifle(a bit hotter) and handgun ammo. Either will do in a rifle. The rifle stuff will be fairly hot in a handgun though.
"....44 Special ammo..." Yep, but the .44 Special is expensive and not as easily found. Loading .44 Mag brass to .44 Special velocities works well though. Same idea as loading .357 brass to .38 Special velocities. Eliminates the lube gunk build up in the cylinders of as revolver and chamber of a rifle. Not a big deal though. The gunk comes out with regular cleaning.
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Ok thanks! Had me worried for a minute! Im still trying to understand exactly where ammo can be interchanged and where it cant.

The russian, myself I prefer to either shoot a .22LR, or my SKS.
I have various other rifles available to me (44 mag Ruger, 30-30 Winchester, 12 gauge Browning), but they are expensive to shoot.

Where as a 22 is dirt cheap (525 rounds for 33 bucks at Canadian tire, and can be found for up to $10 cheaper else where) and fun when you have a 10/22 or basically anything other than a single shot.

I then also shoot my SKS allot, its funner to shoot due to actually having some recoil and being able to shoot through trees over 12" thick, while still not costing too much to shoot as a crate of 1200'ish is around $200. And the gun can be had for around $200 also.
 
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