45-75 & 45-60 loading data
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Fill 'er full of FF and have at 'er!!
If you want to go the smokeless route it gets complicated. There are quite a few people on here that can help with that too thou. What are you shooting them out of?
If you want to go the smokeless route it gets complicated. There are quite a few people on here that can help with that too thou. What are you shooting them out of?
Loading Black Powder cartridges has been covered here many times, you determine overall cartridge length, then fill and settle(drop tube or vibrate) the 2fg black in the proper quantity to fill the case to the bottom of the bullet. Some experimenting and weighing are in order and make sure the cast bullet is very soft, pref. 30-1, and lubed with Black Powder lube. There must be no airspace in the loaded round. For the model '76 or repros, light smokeless loads, must be arrived at carefully, these actions are not strong. AA5744 or IMR 4759 loads meant for the Trapdoor may be a baseline, reduce 10% for the 45/60 and increase somewhat for the 45/75.
I load my 45-60 with 4198 & pack the case with the finest filler I could get...toilet paper 
, no ignition problems, shoots only a couple inches low at 50yds (I could likely add a couple gns) & seems to burn clean if tightly packed.
WARNIN
you might not want to fire many of these loads over a nice bed of dry maple leaves, although to date I haven't really seen any evidence there's enough sparks to start a fire.
, no ignition problems, shoots only a couple inches low at 50yds (I could likely add a couple gns) & seems to burn clean if tightly packed.WARNIN
you might not want to fire many of these loads over a nice bed of dry maple leaves, although to date I haven't really seen any evidence there's enough sparks to start a fire.
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Thanks Ben. On retrospect answers higher in details and lower in tongue-in-cheekiness are probably of more value. 
I do maintain that Black is usually the best way to go with the venerable old cartridges. Pressure is generally not an issue and its what they were designed to shoot well with. With care thou, I have no doubt whatever that the loads these gentlemen recommend will give good results. Happy shooting!
I do maintain that Black is usually the best way to go with the venerable old cartridges. Pressure is generally not an issue and its what they were designed to shoot well with. With care thou, I have no doubt whatever that the loads these gentlemen recommend will give good results. Happy shooting!
Sorry if it sounded wrong, i try to tell it like it is(in my opinion). Quite often one gives out load info. and folks change things somewhat, and things don't always work out, like subbing hardcast for soft cast and using hard lube instead of softer non-petroleum BP lube. When things go south, they retire the Black powder idea, when BP is most accurate in these old large cases. The old adage applies here:"Once you try black, you'll never go back".......Ben
45-75 can be made from .348Win brass expand neck,trim +fireform.Lyman #456192 mold350gr lead/24gr IMR 4198/1380fps/energy 1480ft lbs.Trim cases to1.87",and fireform.size cast bullets .456-.457"flatnosed bullets only.Also Lyman #457122 mold 330gr/22gr 2400 or same bullet/25gr/IMR 4198..........Harold
45-60 use flatnosed bullets only.Lyman #457191/20-22gr/2400[22gr max]or same bullet 24-25gr /IMR 4198 Can use 45-70 brass just sized +trimmed.Another load with a Lyman #456191/300gr calls for 25gr/IMR 4198 at 1450fps/1410 ft lbs energy.Ken Waters Pet Loads and Cartidges of the World............use at own risk.........have BP loads as well if you want....Harold
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I don't think you want to be making your 45-60 cases out of 348 win brass! The base diameter of 348 brass is 0.553", and 45-60 is 0.500", same as 45-70. 45-60 is simply made by shortening 45-70 brass to 1.89".
