45 ACP & Small Pistol Primers

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Well, I've been collecting this stuff, as every time I pick up 45 brass, half the time it seems it is the Win NT brass...

So I'm sitting on about 3000 peices of brass and decide to load up a box of 230gr. ball.
My load was 5.0 grains of Universal (just lower than middle of the road - I think Hodgdon says its moving at 740+/- fps, with Lg. primers)
Federal Small Magnum pistol primers, Montana Gold 230 gr. FMJs, & Winchester NT brass. COL is 1.250"

Average velocity was 560 fps, inconsistant and incomplete powder burn.:redface: and (needless to say) spotty extraction and ejection.:rolleyes:

Anyone want to share their 45/small primer loads?:wave:
 
For my small primer load
200 fmj
small pistol primer
231----5.8gr
very accurate & made major power factor.
 
My small primer load is:

Weed them out of the mix and toss 'em in a bag for storage :p .
Only have about 30 pieces, so I haven't bothered (or worried) about reloading them.

(E) :cool:
 
aside from the size, there is NO difference in the primer itself- i've loaded and fired my "heavy" load( 6.0 of 231 with a 200 swc) with no change in poi, recoil or anything else- i don't use magnum primers either- just standard wins or cci- there are a couple of advantages to using nt brass- 1 you don't have to change primer troughs when going from 9/40 40 to 45, 2 that large hole brass can be expensive, now that everybody's using it- the n/t stuff is regarded as throw-away, just like 9mm in a lot of places- can we say free, once fired brass?
i should add that i'm using it in 3 different pistols, a tricked out series 4 model 70, a stock issue remington 1911a1, and a ruger blackhawk
 
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Universal will leave unburnt flakes in low pressure cartridges, like 45, especially if you're loading on the low end. Why are you using magnum primers in the NT brass? Work your load up, the higher pressure will burn more powder and give better functioning.

This is from memory, but I think I'm using 6.4 or 6.5 grains of Universal in my 45 230gr loads, with both large and small winchester pistol primers. I haven't noticed any difference between large and small primers, and I don't notice any unburnt flakes, though this load is near max. Fuctions 100% in my guns.
 
Small Primer Loads

hid said:
For my small primer load
200 fmj
small pistol primer
231----5.8gr
very accurate & made major power factor.
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x2 on that load. My .45 will make major on 5.6 grs of 231 (small primer) with no problems of any kind and I agree, with Montana Gold bullets, they are very accurate.
 
You don't need the magnum primers. Regular small pistol primers will work in NT brass. Large pistol for other brands.
4.5 grains of Bullseye with a cast 230 grain FP or RN bullet works well out of my .45. It's a target load.
 
This is what I was shooting the other nite Mike;
regular SP primer, Win NT brass, 5.4gr of TiteGroup
and 185gr Montana gold JHP's. No problems this far.
 
Thanks everyone!:rockOn:

I should clarify why I'm using Sm. Magnum Primers...

I received 5000 of them in a trade and need to use them or sell them.
I'm too lazy to sell them, so I need to use them.
I'm also too lazy to make a new load for 9mm and 40 S&W (the only other pistol I load for)...so I figured I'd use the NT Brass with the magnums.

Un-burnt Universal in low pressure loads makes sense.
Thanks, I'll switch back to Titegroup or 231

Echo: I used to throw it out until I eventually threw out more than I saved, so I started keeping it:)

What's everyone's Titegroup loads moving at?
I load 5.0 grains of titegroup and get around 800 - 850 fps
 
Vhit. n320 5.5 grs,oal,1.255, 230 fmj, ave. vel, 810fps to my SW 625 REVOLVER.
5.1 GR, 231, OAL-1.255, 230GR FHJ. for my pistol, not advisable for Rev. leaves so much unburn powder. pistol okay.
 
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