.45 heel bullet
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.44 colt chamber in a starr conversion the barrel is .45 cal It is a wierd thing never seen anything like it like it. I got to do a lot more research on this. The guy I bought it from is saying that this is the way they were made?
I don't want to be disrectful but do you know what a heel bullet is? The .22LR is an example of one. I can't imagine a reason why you would need one as they provide no advantage over and ordinary bullet.
ARe the cylinders bored out to .45 cal?
Take Care
Bob
ARe the cylinders bored out to .45 cal?
Take Care
Bob
Yes I know what a heel bullet is. The cylinder is bored out to .44. I cut down some .44mag brass and they fit perfectly, also the brass fits into the end of the barrel. .45auto bullets just fit the barrel but can be pushed thru with little effort. I have not slugged the bore yet cause my buddy that has some real soft lead is out of town. I am assuming that it will be real close to .454. The combination of .44 cylinder and .45 barrel leads me to think that a heel bullet is required for this one. Anyone know of a good site to find info on the starr revolvers? The only ones I can find do not give much info,
IIRC, the .44 Colt round uses a heeled bullet. You might need a custom mould. Maybe blocks for a .429 bullet could be bored out to produce a bullet with the correct major diameter. That is how I would approach obtaining a mould for a heeled bullet to fit a .44 case. If you can push a .452 bullet through the barrel, a .454 isn't going to do the trick. Slugging will tell you what you are dealing with. I think a Lee factory crimping die might be a good idea. I don't know the length of the case you are using, perhaps a factory .44 Special factory crimping die might be adaptable.
The other option is to use a hollow based bullet.
The other option is to use a hollow based bullet.
Thanks for your advice. I have a buddy that has a small lathe. Will try to cut down the base of the .454 bullet to fit the .44 cartrige?? maybe it will work I will keep trying and will post results. Don't have much time at the moment, but will mess with it.
577/450,
What I have done for a 12.7X44R and a .43 Mauser mod71 is cast a larger bullet in pure lead, size and lube using a sizer with the least amount of re-sizing, then resize it again with a smaller diameter sizer from the base up the shank to where it will seat far enough into the unsized shell to chamber. I have effectively manufactured a heeled bullet this way. Then running the whole assembled round through the sizer die tightens the shell enough to keep the bullet in.
I don't know just what dimensions you are working with but if you can get say a 0.459 pure lead lubed bullet then go 80% up the shank with a 0.440 sizer, you might wind up with the heeled bullet you need.
What I have done for a 12.7X44R and a .43 Mauser mod71 is cast a larger bullet in pure lead, size and lube using a sizer with the least amount of re-sizing, then resize it again with a smaller diameter sizer from the base up the shank to where it will seat far enough into the unsized shell to chamber. I have effectively manufactured a heeled bullet this way. Then running the whole assembled round through the sizer die tightens the shell enough to keep the bullet in.
I don't know just what dimensions you are working with but if you can get say a 0.459 pure lead lubed bullet then go 80% up the shank with a 0.440 sizer, you might wind up with the heeled bullet you need.
