45 S&W (45 Shoefield sp?) in a 460/454/45 also possibly 410?

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I was curious as to whether this round would also be allowed in the repetoire of this already versatile pistol. I just purchased a 460XVR and it says it can shoot the 3 454,45,460 however isn't the 45 SW just a shortened 45lc? I think it would work however there is very little information and one post on another forum that some people said yes and others were not sure.

Also I have seen 45 colt pistols with the ability to shoot 410 shotshells out of there and is this possible in an emergency situation? I have seen mostly no to this question but i had to ask and if not why? It would need to be shorter ones however I comparted a 3" 410 and it is too big to it would need to be 2.5" or smaller. Just trying to max out the options of this neat handgun.

I have some 460 on order and plan on mostly shooting 45 colt out of it at the indoor and the bigger boys at an outdoor as the 460 is as of right now not allowed until I can prove the backstop will stop these. But 454 and 45 are ok.

Anyways any answers about the smaller 45SW would be most appreciated and any other responses as well. Have a good weekend.

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45 schofield: it *should* work, but it's a rather obscure cartridge these days.

.410: is the cylinder on the 460 even long enough to accept the shell?

contact smith & wesson, before you cause damage to your $1400 revolver!
 
I would be extremely cautious shooting shot thru the gun with the compensator attached...... may have "interesting" results.
 
I may be wrong on this but the way I understand how shorter cartridges work in guns that can shoot them is that the bullet has to enter the chamber's reduced forward area before it leaves the case so that it has support and gas sealing at all times. The shorter case of the 45Schofield would almost certainly have a span of distance where it's not supported by anything at all before it enters the reduced bullet size diameter of the front of the cylinder chamber. Hence gases from the charge would pass around the bullet and probably result in bad leading up of the gun or poor accuracy due to shaving as the bullet could shift and enter the reduced diameter forward portion at an angle.

Besides, as mentioned this is a very obscure cartridge and would be quite expensive to buy. And if you're shooting a gun of this sort then you really only get your full money's worth out of it if you reload your own cartridges anyway. So you can easily load .45Colt brass to similar power levels if you want soft plinkers. Or the same with the .454 and .460 brass to any level you could possibly want. So the "advantage" of shooting a fouth cartridge would seem to be a non issue.

.410 shot loads would likely cause all manner of nasty things due to the compensator. But a .410 slug would be interesting if they fit the cylinder.
 
Yeah I am mostly going to be shooting 45,454 and 460 just wanted to see if there was anything else this revolver could safely shoot.
 
.45 Schofield is just ashort .45LC, so you could shoot it in your gun, but it does have longer to jump before it gets to the forcing cone, and the general consensus is that reduces accuracy. The .45LC brass is cheaper too. But if you're surrounded by zombies, and all there is to shoot is a barrel of .45 S&W, you'll make out just fine. Enjoy your hand cannon.
 
I've heard that BAD things happen if you try to shoot .410 out of that gun. I don't know what, and I don't care to find out, but I've definitely heard it advised against. The Judge and Governor are specifically designed to shoot .410 ammunition. I don't know if the reason for this being safe is due to a different rifling construction, but at least in the case of the Taurus the rifling of the gun is deliberately shallow to function with both .45 and .410 ammunition. Either way, my .460 is a dedicated .460 shooter. I won't be putting any more .454 or .45 through it and from what I've read, I'd DEFINITELY never send any .410 through it. She's too precious to me to even entertain the idea.

The point in the .460 XVR was to make a more versatile X Frame option, so if Smith doesn't say I can, I'm not going to argue with them. That's my take on the issue. Hope it helps.
 
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