I have a Ruger Gunsite Scout in 450 BM. I have not hunted with it, it gets carried a lot, I took the muzzle brake off as well as the scope rail, it has the stock ghost ring sights. I was looking at the Howa or the American before this one came up on the EE. The synthetic model is very light, I have a few different size mags for it and it is comforting to have a couple in my pocket when I am out for a hike with my dogs. I did watch one video where they put it against a 45/70, the 45/70 won but not by a lot.