450 marlin recoil?

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never shot one but wanting to get one as I don't reload. What do you all find the recoil is like or comparable to?. I have never shot bigger that a 300 wm and that was no problem at all
 
I have never fired a factory 450 load, but full power hand loads out of a Guide Gun, were noticeably harsher than my 45-70, and even that is more than most people can comfortably handle.
 
I''ve fired Hornady 325 gr. and 350 gr out of a Marlin 1895M rifle. From a field position it wasn't bad at all, I'd call it a good shove. Off the bench, that good shove will
wear you down very quickly - especially your elbows. Definitely not a bench rest gun.:)
 
I've had one for several years and it is my "go to" gun for whitetails in bush and open timber out to about 150yds. Never shot any factory stuff, only use cast bullets in it. I've shot MANY 1000's of rounds from light 175 gr balls (through a .460 Lee push through sizer die with about 10 gr shotgun powder for loads that give about the recoil of a 223) to heavy loads. A couple of loads use RCBS 300 gr slugs loaded both down (sub 1000 fps) for target fun and loaded up (1800 fps+) for hunting. The light loads can be shot all day as the recoil is quite mild. Then I've got a load that uses RCBS 400GR FN bullets at about 1600-1800 fps. These ones really get your attention fast. I only shoot those in the late fall, working up loads for hunting, so I'm wearing heavy clothes and the nasty recoil is tamed down quite a bit. Personally, I just don't understand why anyone, shooting a 45 cal rifle at, or around, the 2000 fps mark, would shoot anything wearing a jacket. It's way to expensive, shooting cast is so much cheaper and accuracy is at least as good with cast. Performance on game is excellent 1 shot, never required a number 2. Hand loading the 450 is so simple, cheap and easy, with so many alternatives in recoil, for me it just begs to be loaded WITH CAST!!! Best of luck.
 
What are we talking about here? An 18.5" or a 22" or a 24"? Those make significant differences if compared to an 1895 Marlin in .45-70, in muzzle velocity, recoil and noise. I've owned 4 1895 Marlins in .45-70 and I can assure you I'd never own one again in 18.5" with porting and hot loads!!! From a 22" Marlin in .45-70, a 465gr hardcast at 1900 fps is much more than a shove. The recoil is at least the equal of a hot loaded .375 H&H, and I've owned those as well. A 405gr at 2100 fps is almost as much as the 465gr at 1900, but not quite. But it can be handloaded to become a very mild-mannered beast using a 300gr at 1600 fps. So, there's no such thing as simply "How does a 450 Marlin compare in recoil to the .45-70?" The .45-70 can always be loaded to slightly higher velocities in an 1895 with equal barrel lengths due to the case holding slightly more of the same powder when shooting the same bullet in the same length barrel. Then, there is the Ruger #1 in .45-70... that's another beast entirely. There, you're talking about ballistics that approach the .458 Win Mag. The NEF is about mid-way between the Ruger and the Marlin in .45-70. I've owned and used them all. My favorite is the Ruger that I've had long-throated... it is fully the equal of a .458 Win Mag.

Bob

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I the Steyr Big Bore 22 inch barrel, it push a Hornady Interlockt factory 350 gr at 2200+ fps with 3600 fps of energy and a Leverevolution 325 gr at 2350 fps for an incredible 3700+ pounds of energy, quite powerfull... JP.
 
in the same Marlin lever action with the same barrel length there is a notable difference and the 450 marlin is a step over .... we re talking about factory ammo of course ...
 
What are we talking about here? An 18.5" or a 22" or a 24"? Those make significant differences if compared to an 1895 Marlin in .45-70, in muzzle velocity, recoil and noise. I've owned 4 1895 Marlins in .45-70 and I can assure you I'd never own one again in 18.5" with porting and hot loads!!! From a 22" Marlin in .45-70, a 465gr hardcast at 1900 fps is much more than a shove. The recoil is at least the equal of a hot loaded .375 H&H, and I've owned those as well. A 405gr at 2100 fps is almost as much as the 465gr at 1900, but not quite. But it can be handloaded to become a very mild-mannered beast using a 300gr at 1600 fps. So, there's no such thing as simply "How does a 450 Marlin compare in recoil to the .45-70?" The .45-70 can always be loaded to slightly higher velocities in an 1895 with equal barrel lengths due to the case holding slightly more of the same powder when shooting the same bullet in the same length barrel. Then, there is the Ruger #1 in .45-70... that's another beast entirely. There, you're talking about ballistics that approach the .458 Win Mag. The NEF is about mid-way between the Ruger and the Marlin in .45-70. I've owned and used them all. My favorite is the Ruger that I've had long-throated... it is fully the equal of a .458 Win Mag.
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Try full power loads out of my 45-70 Marlin 1895 SDT with a 16-1/4" barrel. Most people aren't anxious to take a second shot.
 
If I didn't already have my .458 BSA, I'd get the Steyr .450 as the stock is better suited to shooting
warm loads compared to the Marlin & a lot better than the old Ruger No 3. The Ruger was a pain machine!:eek:

Cast loads are my best choice for hunting or plinking with any of these big bores.
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
If I didn't already have my .458 BSA, I'd get the Steyr .450 as the stock is better suited to shooting
warm loads compared to the Marlin & a lot better than the old Ruger No 3. The Ruger was a pain machine!:eek:

Cast loads are my best choice for hunting or plinking with any of these big bores.
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My Steyr Big Bore 450 marlin got the accurracy of a 308 and the power of a 300 WM up to 200 metres, incredible rifle... JP.
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
Lucky bast@#d! Me jealous now.:)
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And you know what, i just realized how Lucky i am to have one, i had it on the EE with my Scout Steyr 308, both brand new and i decided,not to sell them, you seldom see them and they are the best in their category, they may be safequeen but they are STEYR RIFLES and they will stay mine.. Thanks for waking me up guys... JP.
 
Own a Brownning BLR takedown as well as a Winchester model 94 Trails End (ported barrel) takedown in 450 Marlin.
They have a stout kick with the 325 & 350 grain Hornady factory ammo but they're both "kids stuff" compared to my Savage model 116 Alaskan Brush Hunter (about 7 1/2 pounds) in 375 Ruger.
 
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