tactical870
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How many grains of FFG for a 455 Webley MkII? Anyone ever try and shoot roundball from one of these guns? Thanks
455 BP loading???
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vagrantviking
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Sounds like a fun project!
Fill to about 1/8 inch above where the base of the bullet will be when seated. Black likes a bit of compression.
Consider using 3F if you have some as it will probably burn a bit cleaner and more completely in the short barrel. Round balls would probably work pretty good as long as they are a couple of thou bigger than bore diameter and stay put in the case. Might be a bit hard to seat with a die so you might have to push them in with your fingers.
Fill to about 1/8 inch above where the base of the bullet will be when seated. Black likes a bit of compression.
Consider using 3F if you have some as it will probably burn a bit cleaner and more completely in the short barrel. Round balls would probably work pretty good as long as they are a couple of thou bigger than bore diameter and stay put in the case. Might be a bit hard to seat with a die so you might have to push them in with your fingers.
tactical870
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I just came to the realization that I already have a box of .454 diameter hornady round balls and haven't got any more than a handfull of bullets for myself yet so why not try it? I'm thinking a thin over powder card and a little lube would be a good thought too before seating the ball....
vagrantviking
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A bit of lube wouldn't hurt as long as its not going to melt and seep into the powder. Not hugely important unless you are going to shoot more than a couple cylinders full at a sitting. Going to have to clean it when you get home anyway.
You could cut disks of lube to but under the ball by pushing the case into a thin layer of lube before you seat the ball. Or if you seat the ball with the bearing surface a bit below the lip of the case you could fill the space in front of it with a soft lube.
You could cut disks of lube to but under the ball by pushing the case into a thin layer of lube before you seat the ball. Or if you seat the ball with the bearing surface a bit below the lip of the case you could fill the space in front of it with a soft lube.
tactical870
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With a .455 mkII case there is very little room to seat the ball inside the case so I'd have to lube inside the case and lightly seat the ball on top. Any ideas for a suitable hard lube? Bore butter would be way too soft..... Maybe a mix of beeswax and paraffin? Thanks.....
vagrantviking
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I hear what you're saying that there isn't going to be much room for extras in those cases.
There have been 2 or 3 threads on bullet lubes in the reloading and antiques sections in the last month or 2 and there are a couple forums out there dedicated to cast bullets if you want to do some in depth research.
Something consisting of beeswax and Crisco or olive oil is about the simplest. For it to be a bit on the soft side as opposed to hard and bittle try maybe a 30/70 mix of wax to oil. If you do it in the microwave its easy to let it harden and see how it looks then add more of one or the other to get it the way you like. I've been adding anhydrous lanolin to mine to try to get it a bit stickier but its not required.
There have been 2 or 3 threads on bullet lubes in the reloading and antiques sections in the last month or 2 and there are a couple forums out there dedicated to cast bullets if you want to do some in depth research.
Something consisting of beeswax and Crisco or olive oil is about the simplest. For it to be a bit on the soft side as opposed to hard and bittle try maybe a 30/70 mix of wax to oil. If you do it in the microwave its easy to let it harden and see how it looks then add more of one or the other to get it the way you like. I've been adding anhydrous lanolin to mine to try to get it a bit stickier but its not required.
tactical870
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Well I fired off a few rounds. It's definitly a cheap way to load for the Webley, However accuracy is less than ideal. 1' groups at 10 yards isn't quite what I'm looking for.... Back to experimenting....
vagrantviking
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Well thats a bummer.
Do you know the bore diameter? They sell .457 balls for the Ruger Old Army. I would have thought that .454 would have been close though I'm no expert on .455's.
Do you know the bore diameter? They sell .457 balls for the Ruger Old Army. I would have thought that .454 would have been close though I'm no expert on .455's.
tactical870
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I figured it would work too..... Might give it another try next week....
I shot bp quite a bit in my Mk.VI. It worked very well with a regular flat point bullet intended for the .45 Colt. I only used the longer Mk.I brass, though. Clean up in the break open Webley is a snap! Just be careful that fouling hasn't built up under the cylinder retainer on Mk.III and later revolvers. It should be noted, BP should be the ONLY powder used in old Webley's that lack the dovetailed in, hardened breech plate.
