.45ACP: Ouch...
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Plated bullets in the GTA are around $130 to $140/k if you pick them up.
For new pistol bullet reloaders, my powder suggestion is Trail Boss. It is specially designed as a bulky powder and a double charge is very difficult/obvious compared to other fast burning powders. The powder choice may cost you an extra half cent to a cent per round but it is a huge confidence builder for a new reloader, not worrying about missing a double charge.
It will take a number of reloading sessions and 500 to 1,000 rounds to get the "rhythm" of reloading. After that it will become much easier to recognize if/when something isn't quite right.
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Wow! Time-out!!!
You guys make me feel inferior... Now I MUST learn reloading, LOL.
This will sound stupid, but I'm curious: how do you save your casings??? I shot 100 of .45 today at the club, and only managed to find about 20, the rest 'got away'
Actually, I was looking for an easy - but still expensive - way out, like finding a source of cheap ammo. I won't bug you with reloading questions until after I read the Reloading forum. I think this thread is dangerously close to being moved from Pistols to Reloading, LOL.
You guys make me feel inferior... Now I MUST learn reloading, LOL.
This will sound stupid, but I'm curious: how do you save your casings??? I shot 100 of .45 today at the club, and only managed to find about 20, the rest 'got away'
Actually, I was looking for an easy - but still expensive - way out, like finding a source of cheap ammo. I won't bug you with reloading questions until after I read the Reloading forum. I think this thread is dangerously close to being moved from Pistols to Reloading, LOL.
This will sound stupid, but I'm curious: how do you save your casings??? I shot 100 of .45 today at the club, and only managed to find about 20, the rest 'got away'
Look harder.
Depending on your range, you can also set up a tarp or other barrier to stop brass from flying freely everywhere. Are you shooting from a concrete pad, indoors or outdoors, in the snow, what?
Mark
Wow! Time-out!!!
You guys make me feel inferior... Now I MUST learn reloading, LOL.
This will sound stupid, but I'm curious: how do you save your casings??? I shot 100 of .45 today at the club, and only managed to find about 20, the rest 'got away'
Actually, I was looking for an easy - but still expensive - way out, like finding a source of cheap ammo. I won't bug you with reloading questions until after I read the Reloading forum. I think this thread is dangerously close to being moved from Pistols to Reloading, LOL.
You will find all .45 shooter go the the far right hand side of the range and got all the brass back without problems, if you are at the middle area of the range, your neighbour will pick them up before you.
Trigun
I lose about 2 to 4 per box typically. You get to know where the land and roll pattern is pretty quickly.
But if the brass hounds are operating at your range you need to jump in and pick them up every second magazine and warn them away with a stern glare and a reminder of how much you like freshly sauteed brass hound liver while reloading between the two....
Yeah, I'm pretty green myself but it sure didn't take many boxes of .45ACP before I realized I'd better get into reloading pretty quickly.
Odd thing was that my first ever reloads were some .500 S&W Magnum for my TC Encore carbine shoulder gun. Talk about jumping into the deep end of the pool! ! ! ! Since that time I've done around 300 rifle rounds in two calibers, another batch of 50 .500's, a test batch of .38Spl done the "rifle" way since I don't have a progressive press for them yet and the batch of 300'ish .45ACP.
But if the brass hounds are operating at your range you need to jump in and pick them up every second magazine and warn them away with a stern glare and a reminder of how much you like freshly sauteed brass hound liver while reloading between the two....
Yeah, I'm pretty green myself but it sure didn't take many boxes of .45ACP before I realized I'd better get into reloading pretty quickly.
Odd thing was that my first ever reloads were some .500 S&W Magnum for my TC Encore carbine shoulder gun. Talk about jumping into the deep end of the pool! ! ! ! Since that time I've done around 300 rifle rounds in two calibers, another batch of 50 .500's, a test batch of .38Spl done the "rifle" way since I don't have a progressive press for them yet and the batch of 300'ish .45ACP.
Uh, you're right, I was somewhere in the middle. Serves me right...
mmattockx, its an indoors range at Target Sports.
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Adrian I am out in St. Catharines which whould be between an hour to two from you. If you are ever up for a drive I would be glad to show you how the reloading process goes, and give you any knowledge I have. My second handgun was a 1911 and I was reloading before I got home with the gun. I fired a box of factory at the range before I left with the gun, but was at the orangville show the week before and bought a lee turret kit(4 hole) I have been reloading ever since. I now reload for 9mm to for my Glock and Bushmaster AR. I absolutely love the .45 acp and the 1911, and I can afford to shoot lots thanks to reloading. You will find that it is really a simple process and if you buy lee(at least dies) you will find that the instructions that they come with will get you set up no problems. Along with a reloading manual you are good to go. Really very simple process, and I put out about 200 rounds an hour with my setup. ($250 all in)
I dont buy components up here where you get taken to the cleaners for them. And I cast alot of my own. If you are paying 45 bucks for 1000 primers well, i feel for oyu, message me i will tell you where to get them for 30 or less. LArge Pistol.
I have only been shooting for a couple of years and was apprehensive about reloading as well. Once you get going it is easy, you just have to pay attention I reload 9mm, .357Sig and .45 without any trouble now.
Here in Australia .40s and .45s were confiscated in a government buy back in 2000 or 2001 (can't remember exactly, before I was shooting) and .45 brass is rarer than rocking horse poop as a lot of people sold it for scrap. The government bought back complete guns as well as slides, frames, barrels, reloading presses and dies but not brass.
The only way to get anything greater than 9mm/.38 but less than .50 is to get a high calibre permit. The only approved matches for high calibre permit holders are metallic silhouette and cowboy action so I drive an hour each way four times a year to shoot metallic silhouette which allows me to have my .45 Norinco 1911A1. If you have a pistol license you have to shoot a scoring match 6 times a year in one category (rimfire, centefire, high calibre) and four times for each subsequent category. My club shoots a match every week so its easy to meet the requirements except for the high calibre match which we aren't approved for.
Once fired .45 brass is about $AU30-35/100 if you can find it and ~$AU50/100 for new brass. I have been using Winchester and Federal non tox brass with the small pistol primers. I use them because I can get them for free off a shooting gallery where my brother works and a fellow gun club member reams the primer pocket for me (for free) to remove the crimp that the non tox case have around the primer.
Reloading .45 costs me:
Primers: Federal small pistol $AU50/1000 or Magtech $AU35/1000
Projectiles: 230gn lead round nose $AU52/400
Powder: $AU47/pound for AP70 which is made by ADI, a defense contractor, here in Australia. A pound will do about 1300 rounds.
With the free brass and using Magtech primers which I have had no trouble with reloading costs about AU20c/round. Factory costs ~$1/round and that is if you can find any that are lead projectiles as almost every club prohibits jacketed ammo.
$AU1=$CA0.93
I reload 9mm, .357Sig and .45 without any trouble now.Here in Australia .40s and .45s were confiscated in a government buy back in 2000 or 2001 (can't remember exactly, before I was shooting) and .45 brass is rarer than rocking horse poop as a lot of people sold it for scrap. The government bought back complete guns as well as slides, frames, barrels, reloading presses and dies but not brass.
The only way to get anything greater than 9mm/.38 but less than .50 is to get a high calibre permit. The only approved matches for high calibre permit holders are metallic silhouette and cowboy action so I drive an hour each way four times a year to shoot metallic silhouette which allows me to have my .45 Norinco 1911A1. If you have a pistol license you have to shoot a scoring match 6 times a year in one category (rimfire, centefire, high calibre) and four times for each subsequent category. My club shoots a match every week so its easy to meet the requirements except for the high calibre match which we aren't approved for.
Once fired .45 brass is about $AU30-35/100 if you can find it and ~$AU50/100 for new brass. I have been using Winchester and Federal non tox brass with the small pistol primers. I use them because I can get them for free off a shooting gallery where my brother works and a fellow gun club member reams the primer pocket for me (for free) to remove the crimp that the non tox case have around the primer.
Reloading .45 costs me:
Primers: Federal small pistol $AU50/1000 or Magtech $AU35/1000
Projectiles: 230gn lead round nose $AU52/400
Powder: $AU47/pound for AP70 which is made by ADI, a defense contractor, here in Australia. A pound will do about 1300 rounds.
With the free brass and using Magtech primers which I have had no trouble with reloading costs about AU20c/round. Factory costs ~$1/round and that is if you can find any that are lead projectiles as almost every club prohibits jacketed ammo.
$AU1=$CA0.93
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Um, why not? Can you drive a car? Work an Ipod? Or a computer? Then odds are good you are smart enough to reload. - dan
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I know 45 brass is worth something but I always enjoy watching people picking up brass like pigeons LOL.
aridan, another vote for reloading here. I remember how daunting and intimidating reloading can seem at first. You just gotta make the jump.
I started shooting in January 2008, assembled my first cartridges in April 2008. Never looked back since.
I started shooting in January 2008, assembled my first cartridges in April 2008. Never looked back since.
Blah kangaroo tastes like crap, its too tough but we export it by the container load to the Russians who seem to love it for some strange reason.
From what I can gather pistols in Canada are treated similar to here ie 10 round mags, minimum barrel length and only target shooting. I could get put in jail if caught hunting with a pistol
Have a look at the table below for what we can and can't have on particular licenses. You can pretty much forget about ever getting a Category D license though. One bizarre exception is we can have one of those IAC lever action shotguns with five round capacity on a Cat A license. Apparently lever action shotguns were overlooked because there was virtually none available at the time the laws were drafted after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre where a nutjob killed 35 people with an AR-15.
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/133134/genuine_reasons_table.pdf
The table is for my state of NSW but the laws are virtually identical nation wide. In theory gun laws are a state responsibility but after Port Arthur the federal government led by John "I hate guns" Howard persuaded the states to agree on a national framework. A couple of states were opposed but a threat of funding cuts was enough to pull them into line.
In 2003 pistol rules were tightened after a legal handgun was used to kill two people and injure five at Monash University. That was when they introduced minimum 100mm and 120mm barrels lengths for revolvers and semi automatics respectively, calibre restrictions limiting most handgun shooters to no greater than 9mm/.38 and limited magazine capacity to 10 rounds.
Things look pretty much set to stay how they are for a while at least anyway. Last time there was a well publicised handgun shooting it was with an illegal firearm and several heads of state police as well as the Federal Police chief came out and said straight away that legal handguns were well regulated and not the issue much to the anti's annoyance.
The thing I worry about is another properly licensed handgun owner doing something stupid because I really think it would be the end of pistol shooting here.
Sorry for going a bit off topic but thought some of you might like to know the situation Down Under and how it compares.
From what I can gather pistols in Canada are treated similar to here ie 10 round mags, minimum barrel length and only target shooting. I could get put in jail if caught hunting with a pistol
Have a look at the table below for what we can and can't have on particular licenses. You can pretty much forget about ever getting a Category D license though. One bizarre exception is we can have one of those IAC lever action shotguns with five round capacity on a Cat A license. Apparently lever action shotguns were overlooked because there was virtually none available at the time the laws were drafted after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre where a nutjob killed 35 people with an AR-15.
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/133134/genuine_reasons_table.pdf
The table is for my state of NSW but the laws are virtually identical nation wide. In theory gun laws are a state responsibility but after Port Arthur the federal government led by John "I hate guns" Howard persuaded the states to agree on a national framework. A couple of states were opposed but a threat of funding cuts was enough to pull them into line.
In 2003 pistol rules were tightened after a legal handgun was used to kill two people and injure five at Monash University. That was when they introduced minimum 100mm and 120mm barrels lengths for revolvers and semi automatics respectively, calibre restrictions limiting most handgun shooters to no greater than 9mm/.38 and limited magazine capacity to 10 rounds.
Things look pretty much set to stay how they are for a while at least anyway. Last time there was a well publicised handgun shooting it was with an illegal firearm and several heads of state police as well as the Federal Police chief came out and said straight away that legal handguns were well regulated and not the issue much to the anti's annoyance.
The thing I worry about is another properly licensed handgun owner doing something stupid because I really think it would be the end of pistol shooting here.
Sorry for going a bit off topic but thought some of you might like to know the situation Down Under and how it compares.
