460 wby hang fires??

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Any one got any ideas? Using my 460 wby last weekend shooting gophers I experienced a couple of hang fires.They were just split seconds but definately there. The load i was using was a fast throw together load of 98 grains of imr 4064 under a 300 grain barnes x touched off by a federal 215 primer.
Most of the shots were facing down and i'm just wondering if i should have used a filler such as dacron to keep the powder against the primer? The case was only about ohhh...75 to 80 % full...maybe to much of a gap for the primer spark to jump??
Any ideas???:confused:
 
Where are you getting your load information from. The Barnes reloading #3 manual is (IMR 4064 is 107 grains minimun. 112 grains maximun.) with a Barnes 300 grain XFB bullet with a Federal 215 primer, for a 460 weatherby magnum.
Double check your primer holes for cleaniness, seating fit for possible installation damage.
Buy a couple load books and please read them throughly before future experimentation.
Driller
 
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I did a LoadData search for reduced loads and came up with :

500 Hornady IMR IMR-4198 80 2,135
Remarks: hangfires; no filler
500 Hornady IMR IMR-4198 80 2,147
Remarks: kapok filler; .458 velocity
400 Speer IMR IMR-4198 70 1,936
Remarks: kapok filler
400 Speer Alliant Reloder 7 70 1,990
Remarks: kapok filler; most accurate reduced load
400 Speer Norma N-200 70 2,025
Remarks: kapok filler
350 Hornady IMR IMR-4198 70 2,080
Remarks: kapok filler
300 Sierra IMR IMR-4198 70 2,144
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Also I am with Levi and would consider switching powder's but to RL-19 for med. velocity loads. Range would be 119 GR. >>>>> 124 GR.

IMHO
 
I was reading over on accuratereloading.com about their experiences with the 577, 600NE and 700NE - they ended up having to use a couple grains of Bullseye over the flash hole, under the main powder charge to ensure consistent ignition.

Reportedly, the Winchester LR Magnum primers are hotter than the Federals, too.

And I've heard that - when reducing charges more than 10% or so - you should switch to slightly faster powders, too.
 
Come on Icehunter you know you're lucky that thing even went off with less than 100 grs of powder. Load er up dude! I was useing 118 grs 760 under a 350 X. While not full power it'll get your attention and should still take out any praire dog, even the big bull ones.
 
MTM said:
Come on Icehunter you know you're lucky that thing even went off with less than 100 grs of powder. Load er up dude! I was useing 118 grs 760 under a 350 X. While not full power it'll get your attention and should still take out any praire dog, even the big bull ones.
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Mike it was a fast throw together the night b4 just to get rid of some slugs!!I had 22 slugs and half a pound of powder so i just whipped em together...see thats how you get rid of leftover stuff:D
Once i get some full house loads made i will let you know what its like...:eek:
 
460 Hangfires

I wanted to load some plinking loads for my 460 Weatherby using some bulk grade 405 Remington bullets. Examining the lead bullet data there are lots of loads using AA 5744 powder but I was unsure if I could subsitute a similar weight jacketed bullet. I emailed AA and the advice was I could subsitute the 405's for the lead bullets without problems at the very low pressure/velocity levels. From memory I think the loads went as low as 40-60 grn's AA5744 but check in a standard manual.
 
hiredgun said:
I wanted to load some plinking loads for my 460 Weatherby using some bulk grade 405 Remington bullets. Examining the lead bullet data there are lots of loads using AA 5744 powder but I was unsure if I could subsitute a similar weight jacketed bullet. I emailed AA and the advice was I could subsitute the 405's for the lead bullets without problems at the very low pressure/velocity levels. From memory I think the loads went as low as 40-60 grn's AA5744 but check in a standard manual.
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I don't think you can refer to any .460 Weatherby load as a plinking load. "Plinking" just sounds too small; we clearly need a new word.

How about "Plunking"?

Thwumping?

Fwathudding?
 
Here is a new one for discussion. I worked at a flour mill and my boss told me that back in the day they used to supply tons and I mean TONS of raw flour to the armament industry.

I thought about it for a second and because of my blackpowder shooting experience realized what they were likely using tons of flour for in the armament industry.

It was most likely used as a bulking agent in artillery shells. Flour is fairly pure organic substance that will burn up without producing toxic or problematic residues in the barrel. It is also not heavy enough to change the ballistic equation or corrosive enough to damage the barrel.
 
Or maybe it was an ingredient. Nitrate it with a nitrating agent like nitric acid, and you have one of the key ingredients in smokeless powder
 
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