464 30-30 cycling issue

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My Mossberg is fairly new with only 80 rounds through it.
I experience a feed problem every three or four cycles where the tip of the round gets jammed against the top of the chamber when trying to feed.
The ramp seems to throw the round up too far then the bolt pushes it into the top if the chamber opening.
Am I cycling the lever too hard? Causing the round to lift too much?


Since day one, I have also noticed some resistance when the bolt comes back at the halfway point on the top of the bolt. The bolt drags momentarily on the top of the receiver (where it is tapped for scopes). It causes a bit of a hiccup sometimes when cycling. Not sure it that is normal. There is also wear on the bolt in that spot, where the bluing has been removed leaving just shiny metal. (I was told this is normal with levers)

Or is this just a trait of a new lever gun that maybe needs more time at the range to "break in" the action?
I just feel like the cycling should be smoother and more consistent.
Maybe it's my technique? (first lever gun)
 
I have to jump in here a Moosberg is a much better rifle nowadays than a Marlington... My grandson Karl Zombies rifle a 464 SPX mounted with a Hilux CMR is very accurate and very smooth, after 200 rounds it is as good as it get... Jp.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Curious where u shop cuz no shop I know is gonna take back a used gun let alone a broken one.

I expect he will be told its a warranty issue and have to send the gun off for repair.
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Yeah, I know enough not to try and return a used firearm to a store. I like the rifle, and it's early still. Still learning and bonding with it. 80 rounds through it is peanuts.
 
At the Mossberg Owners site the ailments you mention are common and seem to resolve themselves with shooting. What type of ammo are you using? Sometimes bullet profile will cause the high topping in the chamber.

Darryl
 
You don't mention if you reload or not?
I was going to suggest shortening the OAL, aka over all length of the cartridge.
You're not per say using pointed bullets instead of the flat or round nose sort?
 
madtrapper143 said:
At the Mossberg Owners site the ailments you mention are common and seem to resolve themselves with shooting. What type of ammo are you using? Sometimes bullet profile will cause the high topping in the chamber.

Darryl
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OK thanks good to know. I've used Federal blue, Federal Fusion, Winchester silver, and have a few boxes of Rem CoreLockt still to try.

kamlooky said:
You don't mention if you reload or not?
I was going to suggest shortening the OAL, aka over all length of the cartridge.
You're not per say using pointed bullets instead of the flat or round nose sort?
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No reloading, all the rounds have either been round or flat tip. Is there a shorter length 30-30 cartridge avail commercially?
 
This might not be the cause of the problem, but make sure all the screw on the receiver are not loose. My marlin jammed one day because one screw was loose and it wasn't cycling anymore. When you fire a lot of rounds the screws have a tendacy to loosen. I'm telling you this since it's your first lever gun.
 
Hornady 160 Lever Revolution has shown good accuracy in these rifles according to
some major gun magazines. The rifles themselves have recieved overall good reviews.
Your rifle, I suspect could use a simple teardown & polishing of the bolt raceway to
remove burrs left by the drilling of the scope mount screw holes. Also check to see
if the screws that hold the bases to the reciever intrude into the bolt path a wee bit.
(A common problem on some guns.)

As for cycling goof-ups, the nose of the lifter may need a slight downward bend to
correct a too high lift, or just a good smoothing and polishing to correct.
Any good smith could fix this issue quick.:)
 
Keep in mind, lever guns like it rough. No being gentle with that action. The traditional Winchesters and Marlins anyway. The Winchester 88 and BLR's run fine if you baby them. But traditionals like it rough. Bite the stock once in a while too.
 
Mine was "tight" for a the first few hundred rounds but loosened up really well afterwards with no action or feeding problems. As another said, they like it rough.
 
dahs said:
Keep in mind, lever guns like it rough. No being gentle with that action. The traditional Winchesters and Marlins anyway. The Winchester 88 and BLR's run fine if you baby them. But traditionals like it rough. Bite the stock once in a while too.
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You forgot to mention that you also give it an "at-a-girl" solid smack in the butt once in a while. To OP, you named her right?
 
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