i was wondering if it was legal to have belt links for 5.56. i have a project i was looking to do with some linked dummy rounds so they would never be used in a gun and will not ever be able to be used in a gun with my plan. is it possible to get some? is it legal?
5.56 belt links legal?
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ThatM305Guy
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Of course. You can even use them in firearms. Only thing is you cant link more than 5 if you plan to use them in a firearm...otherwise? Fill your boots.
anyone know where to get some in canada? having a table made with sections cut out and im going to lay 2 lengths of linked dummy rounds going the length of the table then fill with epoxy. something like this but 2 linked belts sunk down into the wood https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw1m6dTdNcOZGkOPAKgNocKO&ust=1548627014978519
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They're somewhat difficult to get a hold of. The guys with the fight lite belt feds will have some. Wolverine was planning to bring some in. I've gotten some from members on here and off ebay. You can import them as well and have a big order coming in with the importer who shall not be named on this site.
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Technically illegal. Just like loading 30rnd mags with 30 dummy rounds. Although there seems to be zero inforcement on this. The argument could be made that disintegrating links are not a “belt” but that would most likely be an un-winnable fight.
I wouldn't risk going to court for this opinion, but if it's filled with epoxy IMO it would no longer constitute a magazine or "ammunition feeding device." Although it would be up until the point that the epoxy is applied so ...
I have seen disintegrating-link belts of dummy ammo (or expended casings) over 5 "rounds" in length at virtually every gun show I have attended in the past 35 years. Based on anecdotal evidence, I have yet to hear of anyone being charged for possession of such a belt, despite the regulated 5-round limit for modern, post-WW2 disintegrating link. This suggests that:
- the regulations are open to interpretation;
- the laying of charges by LEOs is entirely discretionary; and/or
- the regulations under the Firearms Act apply only to live ammunition.
As for which of the above is/are true, I am not really sure. I would therefore invite anyone familiar with the regs who has concrete knowledge to chime in. That said, I for one would never possess nor load a disintegrating-link belt of over 5 live rounds in length into a firearm in Canada. The ever-present risk of being ratted out by a disapproving (or envious) Fudd, or some self-annointed "Range Nazi", is simply too high. Those bastard-children of whore-Mothers are to be found literally anywhere that there is a rock to be kicked over....
- the regulations are open to interpretation;
- the laying of charges by LEOs is entirely discretionary; and/or
- the regulations under the Firearms Act apply only to live ammunition.
As for which of the above is/are true, I am not really sure. I would therefore invite anyone familiar with the regs who has concrete knowledge to chime in. That said, I for one would never possess nor load a disintegrating-link belt of over 5 live rounds in length into a firearm in Canada. The ever-present risk of being ratted out by a disapproving (or envious) Fudd, or some self-annointed "Range Nazi", is simply too high. Those bastard-children of whore-Mothers are to be found literally anywhere that there is a rock to be kicked over....
Presumably then, dummy rounds or empty casings are good to go in disintegrating belts of any desired length. However, a 6th (or more) linked live round would constitute a "prohibited device". So then..... what about two sets of 5x linked live rounds, joined together with a dummy round? Eg. an 11-round belt, with the 6th round a dummy. Nowhere are there more than 5 live rounds consecutively linked in such a belt. You could conceivably fire 5 rounds, manually-cycle the action to eject the (now chambered) dummy, fire 5 more, then wash/rinse/repeat, ad-infinitum....
any belt or links designed after 1945 is limited to 5 rnds
so browning 1919 links in 30.06 are fine link away .308 links they were designed AFTER 1945 is 5 rnds limit
browning m2 50 cal link away
mg34/42 are fine as well
so browning 1919 links in 30.06 are fine link away .308 links they were designed AFTER 1945 is 5 rnds limit
browning m2 50 cal link away
mg34/42 are fine as well
ThatM305Guy
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Along with all the other stupidity. Never has there been such a convoluted pile of legislative garbage as canadian gun laws. I honestly dont even begrudge the rcmp. How could they possibly memorize all this? Let alone in conjunction with everything else they are expected to enforce.
The only problem with this is that you could argue to have 30 round mags with a dummy round between each 5 which is not the case.
Although, you could also argue that each link is it's one or round mag just coupled with others but coupled pmags have to be changed...
Nope, you are missing some of what has already been established. In the case of a magazine, if it is not pinned/rivetted/crimped/etc so as to hold only 5 rounds, then the magazine itself becomes a Prohibited Device. How you fill the mag is irrelevant - it is the capacity which determines legal or prohib status for a detachable box magazine feeding device. Even empty, if the mag is capable of holding 6 or more rounds it is prohib, period. The age of the firearm for which the mag is intended is irrelevant.
The questions surrounding disintegrating-link ammo are different. Legality is apparently defined by the number of consecutive live rounds that are linked together, and the era of the firearm for which the links are intended. To whit, any disintegrating link designed for a post-WW2 firearm is limited to 5 consecutive live rounds. My question is whether the insertion of a dummy 6th linked round "breaks the count", such that another 5 linked live rounds can follow....
Interesting question. Although a dummy round every sixth bullet would necessitate the use of a charging handle.
I see what you're saying. You could argue that the 5 round links are just coupled like magazines would be. If someone could get that in writing from the RCMP that would be nice. They might be more willing to write that if the intent was for decoration vs use.
Second part of this is wrong info. Bolt action and pump action centre fire rifles have no mag restrictions. 5 rounds only pertains to semi auto actions.
