590 Marinecote: trigger parts steel?

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All: I am looking at 2nd hand bear guns, but I live in a cold climate where, with global warming, bears are now active from mid-February to late December.

Any experiences with plastic triggerguards from Mossberg holding up, or breaking in use?

Am I right in thinking that the Mossberg 590A1 has an all-metal trigger group, guard, and safety?

As well, does the Mossberg 590 Marinecote have an all-steel trigger group, but a plastic trigger guard?

How easy is it to get and replace a Marinecote 590 plastic trigger guard with a metal one?

Thanks!

filmbeargun
 
Hi.

Know you that Mossberg makes a 590A1 with the Marinecote finish and since it is the A1 version it also has the metal trigger guard and heavy barrel. This is the way I would go if you want a Mossberg. Go to Mossberg's site on the police price list page--it is listed, but there is no picture.

Personally, I would buy the Remington 870 Marine Magnum, but I like the Mosseberg 590A1 versions too.

Smoothbore
 
Mossberg makes a 590A1 with the metal trigger guard and the Marinecote finish. It is on the police price list page at their site.

Hope this helps.

SB
 
Thanks All!

If there is a Marinecote 590A1 that would indeed be ideal.

I am forced to do all of this out of paper catalogues and off of the Internet, so I appreciate your help!

filmbeargun
 
All: Hm, upon closer examination, Mossberg doesn't make a Marinecote 590A1 with Ghost Ring sights, or do I read their web site wrong?
 
all the drilling and tapping is done to the reciever all you need is a mossberg set of ghost ring sites and get the shop you buy it off to install them for you....

mossberg sells the sites in the aftermarket..... or get a set of other sites installed, either LPA or XS make some nice ones. phone TSE and tell them what you want and they should be able to build it for you.
 
Yes, you are reading that right.
The 590A1 in Marinecoat does not come with ghost ring sights. Bead only. My sense and from what the gunshop suggested to me was that for a bear defense gun a bead would be ok.

You are not going to be taking pot shots at polar bears, right? :)
So you are going to deploy the gun only if you sense the bear is getting close, right?

So, I think a bead would work fine. Realistically, you are only going to get one shot. However, I also agree with Westicle, any skilled gunsmith could add the ghost ring sights for you.

The heavy-duty 590A1 in Marinecoat would be ideal in your application.

Good luck.
Smoothbore
 
filmbeargun said:
Any experiences with plastic triggerguards from Mossberg holding up, or breaking in use?
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I have a 590 marinecote, and never had any issues with the cheapo plastic parts.

Depending on what you want to do, this may or may not be the gun for you. If you need something for defending your home from bears, jump on this rifle like a fat kid to a smartie. If you want a bush rifle that will go with you on long walks in the wilderness, I'd think twice.

My concern with the 590 for bush defence is the size and weight. This thing weights a ton when loaded with 8 slugs, and tends to be front heavy. Plus, at 20 inches, it isn't the shortest shotty around.

You may find the added weight up front makes the gun slow to bear on a target, and a pain in the ass to lug around.

I've had mine for a couple years now, and I love it, but it wouldn't be my first choice for bush defence, where you either:

a) carry the gun in your hands for hours at a time or
b) carry the gun slung on your shoulder and have to quickly go from that position to a shooting position.

For scenario a, I feel the 590 is just to heavy (especially when fully loaded)

For scenario b, I feel the 590 is just too cumbersome (especially when fully loaded)

All things considered, if I were to purchase a shotgun for bush defence, I would probably go with the 14" Norinco 870 clone. From what I understand, the parkerized finish is comparable to the marinecote finish, and is what the US Marines use on their issue shotties.
 
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I've carried my 590 fully loaded with the addition of a side saddle (6 shot) and 4 rounds in the speed feed stock and have never felt that the weight was an issue. I carried this gun almost exclusively for 5 years with many hikes exceeding 20 miles on land and on sea ice. Cold has never effected the any of the parts - metal or plastic. This gun has the ghost ring and post sights, and I would never by choice go back to a bead sight on this type of firearm. I have the parkerized finish, and rust has never been an issue but I am considerate of the condition of the gun that might save my life - especially when I am far from help. All the ammo I need is carried on board so I never have an issue of tearing through my gear looking shells when the bear comes over a pressure ridge. If I have a complaint about the gun it is that the stock is a tad on the long side, and with the speed feed stock I discovered that it worked better with 23/4" shells. I installed a thin piece of stainless steel under the recoil pad to prevent damage to the pad by the speed feed springs. In the pic taken last winter, I'm at the floe edge about 8 miles off shore and the temperature was in the mid -30's.
 
Thanks everybody!

Boomer's conditions seem pretty close to the worst we would see here, so if the plastic parts haven't broken there, then that is encouraging.

Again with all the prevention routine that we have here, reconnaissance to avoid bear habitat, staying in contact with locals, staying out of low-visibility areas, smell signature control, secure food storage, electric perimeter fence for camp, glassing before movement, and letting bears know that we are there, backed up by pepper spray for short-range mis-understandings, we should be ok--I should not have to shoot a bear except as the very last resort.

GR sights are a must as if we have a curious adolescent grizzly ('opportunistic feeder') then I might have to fire a rubber slug from 50M. If that doesn't work, if Mr. Bear is still curious, then I SATCOM for our helicopter and we move the camp.

filmbeargun
 
Some Mossberg Part Numbers for MarineCote Shotguns
50273 - 500, 18.5" Bead, Cap 6
50299 - 590, 20" Bead, Cap 9
51273 - 590A1, 18.5" Bead, Cap 6
Enjoy
Ochiix
 
filmbear gun

another gun you should look at is the benneli NOVA H2O model..... it is rifle sighted and is perfect for what you want for an off the shelf gun.

$899 at corlanes sporting goods..... dawson creek BC.

By land or by sea, Benelli has a special purpose shotgun to fit the need. The Nova H20 pump with its one-piece polymer stock/receiver and nickel-plated parts is impervious to water and resistant to salt.The Nova H20 pump comes standard with a low profile barrel mounted open rear sight and fixed front blade.
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