6.5-300 Weatherby is born
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nowarningshot
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Theme to Deliverance plays......seems like a puff your chest out and whip it out to prove who has the biggest one......26 Nosler vs Weatherby.
My thought on this is going back and thinking of one of my favorites...the 308 Norma mag. Along comes the 300 WM in a rifle 1/3 to 1/2 the cost with cheap available ammo. The one that really wins here is the one that allows brass to be available, chambers their rifle in a affordable package, and markets it better. Nosler has the head start, but there rifle is $4000 and brass is nosebleed expensive. If Weatherby allows this out in the Vanguard, coupled with simply necking down 300 Weatherby brass, they would be the clear winner.
Perhaps ask that question in 20 years, by then we will see which WSM calibers actually still commonly survived. The battle of these two would be clear by then. They might actually be more useful if someone comes up with a more useful 160 frangible hunting bullet.
My thought on this is going back and thinking of one of my favorites...the 308 Norma mag. Along comes the 300 WM in a rifle 1/3 to 1/2 the cost with cheap available ammo. The one that really wins here is the one that allows brass to be available, chambers their rifle in a affordable package, and markets it better. Nosler has the head start, but there rifle is $4000 and brass is nosebleed expensive. If Weatherby allows this out in the Vanguard, coupled with simply necking down 300 Weatherby brass, they would be the clear winner.
Perhaps ask that question in 20 years, by then we will see which WSM calibers actually still commonly survived. The battle of these two would be clear by then. They might actually be more useful if someone comes up with a more useful 160 frangible hunting bullet.
Like others have said its been around for years. Advances in powders and barrels make it more viable, look at all the available load data most of it h870 which is long since been discontinued. If weatherby's vanguard is chambered in it I could see it doing very well.
BigUglyMan
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bearkilr
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The big downside with the Vanguard and these chamberings (like the 257) is that they don't come in a 26" bbl.
At least he didnt proclaim it to be ''the New KING"..
NWS, I think the 20 yr into the future you are asking about we will likely see the 300 Winmag to be the one still commonly available.
Then again maybe we will see something completely different??
Just my humble opinion.
Rob
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Good point, so we could put a 26 or 28" barrel on and still have $2600 left over from buying the Nosler rifle......or wait 6-800 rounds and replace the barrel with the shot out throat.
bearkilr
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Agreed on the Nosler. I had one in 300 WSM and it was more overpriced than most others.
Its a neat idea, and some people will certainly buy them, I think it will get the same reception as most cartridges designed in the last 30 years. Some people buy 'em, after a decade there are few rifles available and even fewer ammo choices, and they quickly become a reloader-only caliber.
Think of all the new things that have come out, and yet at the end of the day, most people are using super old cartidges. 9mm, 45acp and 30-06 are all over 100 years old, as is 6.5x55 and 45-70...and the 303, and the 30-30... While 223, 7.62x39, 308 are all over 50 years old. Hell, the 270win is 92 years old!
While there has certainly been a lot of innovation, it'll take something phenomenal to become truly popular. Although I guess being the most popular has never been Weatherby's game anyways...
Think of all the new things that have come out, and yet at the end of the day, most people are using super old cartidges. 9mm, 45acp and 30-06 are all over 100 years old, as is 6.5x55 and 45-70...and the 303, and the 30-30... While 223, 7.62x39, 308 are all over 50 years old. Hell, the 270win is 92 years old!
While there has certainly been a lot of innovation, it'll take something phenomenal to become truly popular. Although I guess being the most popular has never been Weatherby's game anyways...
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My 6.5mm Rem Mag is not too shabby in comparison to the Weatherby, and isn't the Remington really a WSM type short magnum anyway? Except for the belt...
BigUglyMan
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nowarningshot
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The caliber is limited to the powder and projectile available. There are a lot of good to excellent choices compared to the introduction of the 264wm.
Just about every magnum cartridge mentioned, burn barrels......period. They are hot rods, think 50K brake job on a Ferrari, in that if you shoot it, factor in a barrel every 600 rounds. If you are going to do this ,then go with the most horsepower. Sounds like a Weatherby win, but it will be a small seller. Standard calibers will outsell it 20 to 1.
Just about every magnum cartridge mentioned, burn barrels......period. They are hot rods, think 50K brake job on a Ferrari, in that if you shoot it, factor in a barrel every 600 rounds. If you are going to do this ,then go with the most horsepower. Sounds like a Weatherby win, but it will be a small seller. Standard calibers will outsell it 20 to 1.
