6.5 Creedmore vs 308 Winchester

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I am looking for some help and advice on calibers. I am ready to purchase a new Ruger Precision rifle but am trying to decide whether I would be better off with the 6.5 Creedmore or 308 Winchester. I am just starting to get into Precision shooting and am by no means anywhere near the 1000yd mark yet. In fact, while I feel I could do it fairly easily, I've yet to go past 100yards. This summer I plan to however.

On one hand I currently have 2 Savage 308 rifles, one is a 12FVSS and the second is the 10BA. These would be great learning platforms that will allow me to reach 1000 yards but, from what I understand, not much past which is why I am thinking about the Creedmore.

On the other hand, I am concerned about ammo pricing, barrel life and availability. I don't want a rifle I can't shoot because it's either cost prohibitive or unavailable. While I am not 100% sure on the price, based on some articles I've read, I don't want to have to be replacing barrels constantly. I can easily shoot 240+ rounds a month which means I could virtually shoot out a barrel every 2-3 years!!!!

I know that without a doubt the 6.5 is superior to the 308 ballistically but I also have to consider the practicality of it as well. Any advice you'll be greatly appreciated!!!!
 
Both are great choices however for the absolute beginner the .308 is the best choice. Ammo selection and cost are its endearing feature over the slight performance in ballistics for the Creed. You can easily change the barrel to any caliber you so choose with the RPR once you become more proficient and become a hard core PR shooter.
 
Thanks for the advice so far......what all is involved in changing calibers with the RPR? New barrel, bolt and adjust the head space or is there more to it????
 
Sorry I'm confused, you have never shot further than 100yards but you believe 1000yards is no sweat? If I'm misunderstanding I appologies if not you will find a bigger issue than 6.5 vs 308......

Both are capable, if your putting holes in paper yes 6.5 creed will do it flatter. If you don't reload in my opinion 6.5 is a waste because factory ammo is not at the level you can find 308 that everyone makes match ammo.

After 400yards glass becomes a larger and larger factor, for 1000yards your budget scope is a $1000 Vortex PST and most guys are going to NF or Vortex gen 2 at that point to be consistent and $2500 and over on glass.

There is a big difference between 100-1000y and say 600-1000y+ at that point I'd look at the 338's of the world.

Not much help I know but I believe some steps are skipped in your questions. The cheapest rout to 1000y for the common man was proven to be the Savage 10TR 308 with Vortex PST Glass, 1000yards is possible with a lot of guns, ammo and optics but skill comes into play in a big way and the more money spent the more forgiving it can be (sometimes). A pro golfer will kick my but up and down the course with a 200$ set from Costco, vs my $1500 cobras, yet I couldn't even finish a round during their fine tuned stuff because I don't have the skill to put it to work for me.
 
That's kind of a no-brainer. You already have 2 .308s I don't see why you'd get another. Get the 6.5. If reloading, components are about the same and I believe that factory match ammo is pretty close as well. As to your concerns about barrel life, if it concerns you so much, just shoot your Savages inside 500 yards? Hell, if I was only shooting at 100 yards, I'd want a .223! To be honest, I'd start stretching out the Savages before even buying another rifle. 308 will get you to 1000 no problem. The 6.5 will just give you more leeway with your wind calls as you started pushing out past 500. In your position, I'd say rebarrel one of your savages in .223 for close range stuff, shoot the .308 as you work out to 500+ and then when more comfortable shooting at distance, use the 6.5. Another thing to consider with regards to burning out a barrel is how well can you shoot? What I'm getting at is as a new shooter, it's probable that you don't shoot to the full accuracy potential of the rifle and ergo might get many more rounds out of it than someone who is already wringing out the full potential of the rifle and notices it goes from a solid 0.5 moa to 0.75, say. It depends on what your accuracy standard is. When you eventually burn out your Creed barrel, you can just order another prefit and you'll already have the tools to change your own barrel from doing the .223 ;)
 
Ditch Doc said:
Thanks for the advice so far......what all is involved in changing calibers with the RPR? New barrel, bolt and adjust the head space or is there more to it????
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Plenty of videos on how to change an RPR barrel which is more straight forward then an AR. The tools required are an action rod, go/no go gauges and an AR Armorers wrench. No gas port or tube to worry about so it takes 10-15 minutes......if you are mechanically inclined its easy...peasy.
 
Foxer2373 said:
Sorry I'm confused, you have never shot further than 100yards but you believe 1000yards is no sweat? If I'm misunderstanding I appologies if not you will find a bigger issue than 6.5 vs 308
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Sorry, I can see now where my post was slightly confusing. What I was trying to say was that I am confident I can easily go past 100 yards and would likely be fine up until around the 500 yard range, I am nowhere near ready to reach out to 1000 making the 308 more than enough for me right now. I am just thinking, if I am buying a new rifle anyway, should I be considering the 6.5. My thought is, as I grow it will have the capebility to reach past 1000 when I am skilled enough. On my main 308 I am using the Viper PST for glass

I've ruled out 338 for now thinking that if I get into it that much, not only would a custom rifle be a good milestone gift but by then, I will have a better idea of that I like and don't like.

I do re-load and have a Dillon 550 but have only re-loaded pistol so far. I do want to start with rifle but need to get the plates and dies so I'd likely be shooting factory for now.

Is it fairly easy to change calibers of the RPR?
 
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Just my thinking, but if you have model12 in 308 already just put that money from a new rifle into this rifle and into reloading components/ammo to get some trigger time. Thats what I think would benefit you the most.

This rifle Im sure will out shoot for your awhile and by then youll know what youll want next. :)
 
russm86 said:
This exact same subject was brought up only a couple weeks ago in a thread with basically the same name. I would go .308 all the way.
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The problem with people is that they don't want to search anywhere, they just post hoping for answers...
 
franktank said:
The problem with people is that they don't want to search anywhere, they just post hoping for answers...
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Thanks for that assumption!!!! Actually I did use the search function but could not find what I am looking for, maybe because it was not there or the small screen on my phone but either way, thanks for jumping to that conclusion.....at least you increased your post count with that price of wisdom
 
^thank you Ditch doc

I find the search to often not find threads I'm looking for even if I know the thread title and IMO find it easier to go to find posts off of the user profile.

If it's been posted before and bothers you just move along.....if a newer user posted in a old thread the same people would go off about bumping a "necro" thread....
 
260/6.5 is a lot easier to shoot accurately than 308 (below 1/2 MOA).

For precision you really have to reload so expect at least a buck a shoot.
3000 rnds on 6.5, 5000 rnds in 308 to burn out barrel. Ammo cost is the bigger enemy.

I've switch from my 308 to 260 despite having full precision reloading setup for 308, not going back.
 
6.5 simply for beating the wind. I don't care if the 6.5 is flatter, most scopes you would be using will have enough elevation to take either cartridge to a grand. Wind is where it is at after you cross the 400-500 yard mark and this is where the 6.5s really shine.
 
Sounds like you already have two rifles capable of taking you to 1000yds. If I was you I would buy a better scope instead of another rifle. I've shot 1000yds with a 20 inch Savage model 10 so your rifles should be fine. There is no point buying another rifle unless you're also ready to drop $1500+ on optics for it. I wouldn't buy another Vortex unless you're willing to go to the Razor series but for the money I'd get a Sightron SIII or step up to Nightforce or better. Also, while I like the Dillon 550 and wish I had one if you want to load for 1000yds I'd buy a quality single stage, it will cost you less than your 550 conversion kit and will do a better job. Progressive presses are for volume not precision even though the Dillon ones are very good I'd still use a single stage for building my long range ammo.
 
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