686 range mis hap.....help

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ok I am posting this hoping this may be helpful to other people too

heres the story
I took my pa out to the range today, as he was a LEO 35 years ago I HAD to tak e out My stainless 686
I was using factory remington ammo .357 its never had anything hot through it and ALWAYS worked well, anyway my pa put 6 rounds throught and i gave it a go .......nothing unusal ....but the very last fricken round on that cylinder ......EVERYTHING SIEZES !!!!!!!!!!the cylinder wouldn't disengage and the hammer wouldn't ####....and i still have one unfired round in the chamber:runaway: and I CAN"T EVEN UNLOAD THE DAM THING!!!!! I manage to work the cylinder with my hands and rotate it out (keeping every thing pointed safely down range......i don't know why, but i feel i have to say that) and unload the thing,
i believe i have found out what caused it ......the last bullet fired (where it stopped) seems to have a small piece of brass attached to the primer,covering where the pin strikes? I have to admit when i loaded it i didn't closely inspect every fricken round (as i usually do, from handling blanks and such) :(
so help me out guys

could it have come from the factory like that?

could have a piece of brass mysteriously attached itself to the primer? (I sure as a fiddlers F**k didn't put it there myself!!

hot primer?
my poor 686 looks ok .....no obvious bends or cracks , or bulges.......and all seem well with snap caps. what should i do?
 
Are you sure that the ejector rod didn't work it's way loose thus binding up the cylinder? If it comes 'unscrewed' it can be too long for the ejector rod housing.....
 
sometimes the firing pin bushing gets wore into an oval shape, and primer material gets forced into it, and will cause a jam like you describe
 
What model is your 686 (i.e. 686, 686-2, etc.). The early models were subject to a recall since the primers on certain magum loads would flow into the firing pin hole locking the cylinder up tight. This sounds like it could be the issue if the age is right.
 
The model numbers are sometimes on the frame ,in front of the cylinder and visable when the cylinder is open.
 
shortandlong said:
ok its on the the inside of the cylinder crane ....MOD 686
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I'm thinking that's one that's eligible. My serial number starts with "AFF" and is stamped "686" as well and I know it falls within the range. I recently found out that they're still eligible for the upgrade work--Wortner Gun Works in Chatham can do the work. Although mine has not had the problem, my father's 686 did occasionally, most recently earlier this year also with Remington magnum ammo. He sent his in and had no problems with the upgrade--they put a smaller firing pin bushing in, I think. I seem to remember that all 686's and 686-1's are eligible although I'm not 100% sure.
 
yup firing pin bushing is worn out and needs to be replaced. had to do it to one of my smiths. primers get mishapen and a few shots in bind up the cylinder real bad.
 
I had that happen once, took the side cover off and found a pin shaped brass cup from a primer had fallen inside and jammed.. No problems since but some primers seem a bit bulged, will check bushing..
 
This is what they sent me when I asked the same question 2 years ago



Smith & Wesson


Dear S&W Customer:

We have received your email regarding the L frame modification program. We would ask that you check to see if you have a –2 or –3 after your model 581, 586, 681, or 686, or a little m stamped above the model number (which indicates the modification has been performed). If you do not have one of the items listed, then please follow the instructions below:

We would like you to forward your handgun with a letter asking for the L frame modification along with your return address (No P.O. Boxes) and your phone number. You may return the handgun to our facility by contacting FedEx at 800-463-3339 to request pick up at your location or take the parcel to a FedEx facility or Authorized Ship Center. When you complete the FedEx airbill, in Section 7 indicate "bill to recipient" and insert your return number as 2155-0874-9. The package must be shipped using FedEx Standard Overnight service. There will be no charge to you to return the handgun. Address the parcel and the FedEx airbill to:

Customer Service
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01104

If you have any further questions, please feel free to give us a call at 800-331-0852.



The authorized repair centres in Canada are

M.D. CHARLTON CO., LTD.
BOX 153
BRENTWOOD BAY, B.C.
CANADA V0S 1A0
Phone: 250-652-5266
Fax: 250-652-4700


WORTNER GUN WORKS, INC.
433 QUEEN STREET, BOX 411
CHATHAM, ONTARIO
CANADA N7M 5K5
Phone: 519-352-0924
 
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