6mm Creedmoor and .243 WIN, is there really a difference?

These threads sure go full retard pretty fast...

I've come to learn that CGN is not a place to have intelligent, pragmatic and objective discussions about anything related to precision rifle shooting.

You guys take CGN way too seriously. When threads like this get silly, they should be treated as usual Internet BS-ing. In the words of the great warrior-poet Sgt Hulka, "Lighten up Francis."
 
I've come to learn that CGN is not a place to have intelligent, pragmatic and objective discussions about anything related to precision rifle shooting.

But I agree with you, the advantage to the 6 creedmoor is that its OAL is optimized for mag feeding, which can be a big deal depending on what you are doing. Other then that, they are damn near ballistically identical.

Depends on the length of your magazine. Most bolt actions are well over 2.8". A stock Savage can run almost 2.95. Now a Remington 700 with factory bottom metal...just upgrade it :).

The Creedmoors were optimized for an AR10 magazine length.
 
Depends on the length of your magazine. Most bolt actions are well over 2.8". A stock Savage can run almost 2.95. Now a Remington 700 with factory bottom metal...just upgrade it :).

The Creedmoors were optimized for an AR10 magazine length.

Exactly. A creedmore is just an improved 243 with the shoulders pushed back to give it a longer neck. give them the right magazine length and a tight twist and I doubt you'll see any document-able difference. - dan
 
These threads sure go full retard pretty fast... in rifles with the same twist and same barrel length shooting the same bullet, performance will be incredibly close. The advantage of the Creedmoor case is the same for 6mm as it is for 6.5mm, it's shorter length allows you to run heavy for caliber (and hence long) bullets without them being pushed back into the case while still fitting in a mag. Same as with .260 vs 6.5 Creedmoor. This has led to it being a much more prevalent chambering in rifles optimized for log range shooting than the .243. This boomer vs millennial #### is retarded.

Nailed it. 243 is an awesome round, I have one now and will not part with it. The 6CM looks like a great round as well, and has the advantages that rugbydave listed above, and if I was buying a new 6mm rifle today I would likely go with the CM offering, but my 243 is working great so why change. I think that is what it comes down to-yes the 6CM is probably the superior cartridge that is optimized for the LR and PRS games, probably makes a great hunting round as well, but in the hunting game, it will likely take you close to a lifetime to see the barrel life advantage, and unless you are doing some serious LR hunting with heavy bullets, you likely won't see the faster twist rate advantage either.

Just like Corvette versus Mustang, both will get you to 100mph in a hurry, and either dead or ticketed in the process, so what's the difference?
 
I don’t have either 6 CM or 243 Win (but do have 6.5 L and 260 Rem) so cannot apply direct experience, but ... IMO, the CM offers some advantage to the reloader because of the longer neck which is friendlier to loading a wider variety/length bullet. Also, the CM will pretty much keep the long bullets at magazine fit length in short actions. For those reasons, I am partial to the 6.5L over the 260 Rem as a hunting round.
 
Same argument with 6.5 and 260. If you level the playing field and give them both the same twist rates. Damn near identical ballistics. If you run it in a HS precision DM... barely think an empty case fits in there. Run it in a accurate magazine, damn near identical ballistics.

As for the 6 and 243. Well what is the end goal? Want to try to find a box of shells at some small town. Go 243. Want to seem like you crunched every possible number and went for the triple platinum award, go creedmoor. Lots of talk about less powder consumption. 5 grains less per load. 52grs per 243 and what 47gr per 6CM. So 134 rounds vs 145rounds. You would need to load like 1400 rounds to save 1pound of powder. Barrel life, how many people actually shot out their barrels on either? Not talk Erik Cortina shot out of 1/2MOA. But actually shot out?

Buy what you want and what makes you happy. If still in doubt buy both and post results of the results
 
I’m not about to go through all the pages of this thread to see if someone mentioned it already, but I think the advantage of the 6 Creedmoor over the 243 is the faster twist on factory rifles, and the availability of more factory loaded match ammo.
 
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