I have a cil 830 bolt action 30-30 and I could make a trade with buddy for a Rem 788 6mm and it's left handed and I shoot left. I can use the cil with no problems. The cil was going to be a bush rifle. Would the 6mm be any good in the bush? I know the 788 would be far better rifle than a cil 830/ savage340, but what about the caliber?
6mm vs. 30-30
- Thread starter 6.5x55swm
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I know guys who use .243's for everything from groundhogs to whitetails and I've heard of people taking moose with .243's. The 6mm Rem. is just a bit faster than a .243 and would work as well. Just pick holes in the brush to shoot through.
- Location
- Yellowknife, NWT
I think having a left-handed rifle is worth the trade. The idea of heavier/slower bullets being good in the brush (the bush isn't always brushy!) is something we instinctively believe, but which has never been borne out by testing.
No reason a 6mm Rem wouldn't be good in the bush, and the 788 Rem is a smoother-working rifle than the Savage 340 and its variants. I'd make the trade, and I'm a big-time fan of the .30-30.
No reason a 6mm Rem wouldn't be good in the bush, and the 788 Rem is a smoother-working rifle than the Savage 340 and its variants. I'd make the trade, and I'm a big-time fan of the .30-30.
A Rem 700 6mm is my favorite of any of the rifles in my locker. I have taken more than 150 deer, a truckload of fox and coyote pelts, a few elk and even a moose. I have often used it to knock the heads off pheasant and rabbits out in the stubble.
The 6mm is a much faster cartridge than the 30-30 and would serve you well for most hunting applications. Being a lefty, you may have difficulty finding the rifle you want in a left hand action. Jump while you can. As for the bush rifle concept, a 30-30 is nice simply because they are often a compact size and easy to maneuver in the trees, but any bullet will deflect if you are trying to shoot through bush.
The 6mm is a much faster cartridge than the 30-30 and would serve you well for most hunting applications. Being a lefty, you may have difficulty finding the rifle you want in a left hand action. Jump while you can. As for the bush rifle concept, a 30-30 is nice simply because they are often a compact size and easy to maneuver in the trees, but any bullet will deflect if you are trying to shoot through bush.
If your left handed get the left handed rifle. Both cartridges will work equally well in the brush with a slight edge to the 6mm. Besides it sounds like you already have your mind made up and want a gun to shoot coyotes with too.
I'm leaning towards making the trade, not because of the caliber, but a 788 for a cil 830, there's not much to think there. Just wondering how well a 6mm would work in the woods, I don't know anyone who has one. I'm going to make the trade.
Thanks fellas
Thanks fellas
Good idea, it's pretty much a no brainer but I guess you realize that. The 6mm is a more sudden killer than the .30/30 on deer although I am a .30/30 fan. There is no cartridge that is reliable in the bushes despite what you hear. Shooting at game through brush is a crap shoot at best.
- Location
- Yellowknife, NWT
Know anyone with a .243 Winchester? The differences between that and the 6mm Rem amount to almost zero.
the Dakota kid
CGN Regular
- Location
- London, ON
The 6mm is a great cartridge, you can use it on black bear, deer, coyotes etc. Ammo availability isn't really a problem. It likely won't be at your Canadian Tire, but its not too hard to find. Got a Rem 600 in 6mm, great combo.
drummerboy73
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Old wives tales, no such thing as "brush bustin" bullets. If your shooting in the bush you best pick a clear shooting lane if you wanna hit what your shooting at. Short, fast handling carabines or lever guns tend to be better suited for the bush than scoped rifles but the catridge they are chambered has no efect on the outcome.....
I believe gunwriter Bob Hagel did a whole series of "brush busting" tests back in the day with wooden dowels. As I recall, the best caliber of the bunch was the 6mm Rem with heavy bullets. Doesn't really prove anything, but I would be on that swap like a bee on honey. - dan
6mm/244 Remington. Same cartridge but the rifles had a different twist. One was for varmit type, bullets up to maybe 90 grains, while the other designation had a sharper twist and would stalize bullets to over 100 grain.
Been a while since I dealt with that, but I think the 6mm was the second version that would stablize heavier bullets. Is this correct?
Been a while since I dealt with that, but I think the 6mm was the second version that would stablize heavier bullets. Is this correct?
Yup. No 788's were made in 244, by the time they came out everything was 6mm with the tighter twist. - dan
