6mmRUM & 9.3mm Rum

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I was wondering if anybody has necked the RUM family down to 6mm or even 6.5. It wouldnt be real great on barrel life but it might be an interesting round to have in the rack. It should be good for really long range targets or deer sized game. I also was thinking of a 9.3 RUM which could be useful for the larger bears and it would be one of a kind.

Any thoughts or problems you can forsee?
 
6.5 Short Mag

For ten odd years now I have owed a widcat called .264 Jamison, which similar to but slightly longer than a 6.5 SUAM or WSM. As we speak, it is being re-chambered in 6.5 WSM in order to make the brass conversion easier. It is admittedly overbore, so I have kept the range sessions limited to 20-30 rounds at a time. Ten years and 500 rounds later it has not started to show signs of throat erosion.

As far as perform goes, it has served me well in the open country of Saskatchewan and Africa.
 
carew....

if you think a 9.3 RUM would be cool (as I do), do a search for 366 DGW.
I was thinking of doing that on a P-14. AWESOME power!!

LeRoy
 
I contemplated a 6.5 Ultra a few years ago when I had a 338 Ultra 700 as a donor. Ended up selling the rifle. But I bet a 140 gr @ 3500 fps would be something else!
 
Yeah that does look intersting. Im thinking of it in left handed so the RUM action would be easy to get . Im just thinking of the pressure that round would create.Id be gettign up to around the Lazzeroni magnums with out the cost and brass would be easy to get just fireform 338RUM for the 9.3 and neck down 7mm RUM for the 6.5.
 
The 6mm has been done.
6mm20ultra.jpg
 
With Wildcats, it's all been done before.

When we talk big cases, the three big "Boogie Men" are:

- it's "Overbore";
- it's "Inefficient"; and
- it's a "Barrel Burner".

"Overbore" seems to mean that there are no suitable powders available for it, i.e. they're all too fast to approach a full case and get maximum velocities. Neither the 9.3 RUM, nor the 6.5 RUM would fall into that category, but the 6mm RUM would be limited to at most one or two powders (e.g. US869).

"Inefficient" seems to mean that there's another cartridge that can achieve the same velocity at the same pressure with less of the same powder. So what. The 30/30 is more efficient than the 308 which is more efficient then the 30/06, which is.......... Pretty much meaningless, in a practical sense, unless the extra nickel a round you spend stresses you, and the big potential velocity upside of the round is not worth it to you.

"Barrel Burner" - seems to mean that the more powder you burn, the quicker the barrel will wear out, which is generally true. Use of spherical powders seem to reduce wear, and keeping the heat down helps, but the barrel will wear out faster. If you shoot a lot and replacing a barrel after 5,000 rounds as opposed to 10,000 stresses you then it's a factor.
 
Yup that is the 300SAUM case my mistake i wasnt paying attetion. It would be fun to make the 9.3 Ultra on either case either the long or the short. It makes more sense to me to make a 9.3 just for kicks.
 
The 9.3 Ultra would be a well balenced round, little different than the .375, but still something different. I also think a .458 Ultra would be a good round.

Small bores on big cases run into a point of diminishing returns. Once you exceed the capacity of, oh lets say a 6mm/.284, it is unlikely that you would gain much velocity, and the large powder capacity combines with the small cross sectional area of a 6mm bore, barrel life would be very short.
 
A problem that occurs with the large cap. small bore wildcats is wildly varying pressures. Most think this is caused by expanding powder and gas trying to exit the case and the hole is too small. I have lots of 'overbore' rifles and have had my share of pierced primers, dissappearing primers etc. Still fun after 40 yr. There is a fellow in MT. by the name of Allen who chambers a 6.5 ultramag and has some pretty wild claims for it. Google might have something about him. He has shipped at least 1 of these to Canada.
 
A problem that occurs with the large cap. small bore wildcats is wildly varying pressures. Most think this is caused by expanding powder and gas trying to exit the case and the hole is too small. I have lots of 'overbore' rifles and have had my share of pierced primers, dissappearing primers etc. Still fun after 40 yr. There is a fellow in MT. by the name of Allen who chambers a 6.5 ultramag and has some pretty wild claims for it. Google might have something about him. He has shipped at least 1 of these to Canada.



Kerby Allen aka "50 driver" he can be found posting here http://http://www.longrangehunting.com/
 
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