Do you have to go to a range? Canada is a big empty country, if you know what I mean.
Hi All,
My range requires non steel core ammo which does not stick to magnet.
Any idea where I can find 7.62x39?
Do you have to go to a range? Canada is a big empty country, if you know what I mean.
A bullet will stick to a magnet for two reasons: either a soft steel core or a soft steel jacket. The latter will stick to a magnet even if there is no steel core in the bullet but the core is pure lead. The only bullets that do not stick to a magnet are those with a lead core and brass (gliding metal) jackets. The steel core/steel jacketed bullets are always inserted into steel cases filled with a powder which makes a cartridge. Such a combination makes these cartridges very cheap in mass production.The steel cased cartridges can have corrosive primers (older ones, surplus) or non-corrosive primers, like, for instance, modern red box Norinco ammo.
So you have a big dilemma now. Brass jacketed bullets with brass cases cartridges are substantially more expensive than steel cartridges as clearly pointed out by Buck1950 earlier. The recent prices of brass 7.62x39 ammo range from, say, $1.50 to $2.50 per round, tax included. So, if you shoot, say, 100 rounds (which is not too many) per range session you can spend $150-250, which is crazy.
If yours is an indoor range, in all of these type of ranges in Ontario, to the best of my knowledge, there is a strict prohibition on usage of bullets which stick to a magnet. My indoor range in Waterloo is exactly the same. I shoot steel ammo on my outdoor range. So, if you could find some outdoor range that might alleviate your problem. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.
Quote Originally Posted by 05RAV View Post
A bullet will stick to a magnet for two reasons: either a soft steel core or a soft steel jacket. The latter will stick to a magnet even if there is no steel core in the bullet but the core is pure lead. The only bullets that do not stick to a magnet are those with a lead core and brass (gliding metal) jackets. The steel core/steel jacketed bullets are always inserted into steel cases filled with a powder which makes a cartridge. Such a combination makes these cartridges very cheap in mass production.The steel cased cartridges can have corrosive primers (older ones, surplus) or non-corrosive primers, like, for instance, modern red box Norinco ammo.
So you have a big dilemma now. Brass jacketed bullets with brass cases cartridges are substantially more expensive than steel cartridges as clearly pointed out by Buck1950 earlier. The recent prices of brass 7.62x39 ammo range from, say, $1.50 to $2.50 per round, tax included. So, if you shoot, say, 100 rounds (which is not too many) per range session you can spend $150-250, which is crazy.
If yours is an indoor range, in all of these type of ranges in Ontario, to the best of my knowledge, there is a strict prohibition on usage of bullets which stick to a magnet. My indoor range in Waterloo is exactly the same. I shoot steel ammo on my outdoor range. So, if you could find some outdoor range that might alleviate your problem. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.
I am a member in Burlington. Is there any outdoor range I'm the areas beside Silverdale Zoo?
To get into reloading these days, at prices for new reloading tools - not going to save a whole lot of money any more. You will likely produce equivalent rounds for less price for components, but will be using thousands of dollars in tooling to do so - if you believe sales people. If you can come into some older reloading tool stuff for decent price, or free - reloading becomes a solution. Even components can become a real challenge to find - there is apparently lots of Large Rifle Primers available at $0.40 each, or more ... A bullet, brass casing, powder and primer about components needed - likely depends a lot where you are for what that costs. Then, one or more reloading manuals to learn how to reload - then "work up" some recipes for YOUR components in YOUR rifle - nothing to it!
Despite what people are telling you, Lee makes decent loaders. A few hundred and you are ready to go if you are using a single stage press. This is what I would use for rifle ammo, 7.62x39 is not difficult.
. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.
Quote Originally Posted by 05RAV View Post. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.
I live just outside of Waterloo and have never fired a single round from any of my NR at a range. Just have to hook up with the right folks.