7.62x39 Range Safe Ammo

chicu - Tenda has 2x Win flavours ($46 & 47/box) and one Federal ($33/box), but you're gonna pay ! Not like going out in the woods with Chinese ad $0.45/round ($9/box).
Other vendors also have some, but it's all ca $30+. There are 4-5 vendors with Free shipping if you buy $250-300 per order.
 
If you can find some Ruag 7.62 it’s probably your best cheapest option. Or if you don’t mind shooting corrosive and can find it the yugo m67 will be cheaper. Again if you can find some
 
Hi All,
My range requires non steel core ammo which does not stick to magnet.
Any idea where I can find 7.62x39?

A bullet will stick to a magnet for two reasons: either a soft steel core or a soft steel jacket. The latter will stick to a magnet even if there is no steel core in the bullet but the core is pure lead. The only bullets that do not stick to a magnet are those with a lead core and brass (gliding metal) jackets. The steel core/steel jacketed bullets are always inserted into steel cases filled with a powder which makes a cartridge. Such a combination makes these cartridges very cheap in mass production.The steel cased cartridges can have corrosive primers (older ones, surplus) or non-corrosive primers, like, for instance, modern red box Norinco ammo.
So you have a big dilemma now. Brass jacketed bullets with brass cases cartridges are substantially more expensive than steel cartridges as clearly pointed out by Buck1950 earlier. The recent prices of brass 7.62x39 ammo range from, say, $1.50 to $2.50 per round, tax included. So, if you shoot, say, 100 rounds (which is not too many) per range session you can spend $150-250, which is crazy.
If yours is an indoor range, in all of these type of ranges in Ontario, to the best of my knowledge, there is a strict prohibition on usage of bullets which stick to a magnet. My indoor range in Waterloo is exactly the same. I shoot steel ammo on my outdoor range. So, if you could find some outdoor range that might alleviate your problem. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.
 
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A bullet will stick to a magnet for two reasons: either a soft steel core or a soft steel jacket. The latter will stick to a magnet even if there is no steel core in the bullet but the core is pure lead. The only bullets that do not stick to a magnet are those with a lead core and brass (gliding metal) jackets. The steel core/steel jacketed bullets are always inserted into steel cases filled with a powder which makes a cartridge. Such a combination makes these cartridges very cheap in mass production.The steel cased cartridges can have corrosive primers (older ones, surplus) or non-corrosive primers, like, for instance, modern red box Norinco ammo.
So you have a big dilemma now. Brass jacketed bullets with brass cases cartridges are substantially more expensive than steel cartridges as clearly pointed out by Buck1950 earlier. The recent prices of brass 7.62x39 ammo range from, say, $1.50 to $2.50 per round, tax included. So, if you shoot, say, 100 rounds (which is not too many) per range session you can spend $150-250, which is crazy.
If yours is an indoor range, in all of these type of ranges in Ontario, to the best of my knowledge, there is a strict prohibition on usage of bullets which stick to a magnet. My indoor range in Waterloo is exactly the same. I shoot steel ammo on my outdoor range. So, if you could find some outdoor range that might alleviate your problem. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.

I am a member in Burlington. Is there any outdoor range I'm the areas beside Silverdale Zoo?
 
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A bullet will stick to a magnet for two reasons: either a soft steel core or a soft steel jacket. The latter will stick to a magnet even if there is no steel core in the bullet but the core is pure lead. The only bullets that do not stick to a magnet are those with a lead core and brass (gliding metal) jackets. The steel core/steel jacketed bullets are always inserted into steel cases filled with a powder which makes a cartridge. Such a combination makes these cartridges very cheap in mass production.The steel cased cartridges can have corrosive primers (older ones, surplus) or non-corrosive primers, like, for instance, modern red box Norinco ammo.
So you have a big dilemma now. Brass jacketed bullets with brass cases cartridges are substantially more expensive than steel cartridges as clearly pointed out by Buck1950 earlier. The recent prices of brass 7.62x39 ammo range from, say, $1.50 to $2.50 per round, tax included. So, if you shoot, say, 100 rounds (which is not too many) per range session you can spend $150-250, which is crazy.
If yours is an indoor range, in all of these type of ranges in Ontario, to the best of my knowledge, there is a strict prohibition on usage of bullets which stick to a magnet. My indoor range in Waterloo is exactly the same. I shoot steel ammo on my outdoor range. So, if you could find some outdoor range that might alleviate your problem. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.


I am a member in Burlington. Is there any outdoor range I'm the areas beside Silverdale Zoo?

Waterdown Rod&Gun Club comes to my mind? But I have no idea about a membership there.
My local outdoor range, where I've been a long-time member, is the Bridgeport Rod&Gun Club. Nothing special but the membership is so cheap at $200/year (plus $25 for shooting restricteds). Just 25 min drive from my home. That's why I decided to have a dual membership. One in an indoor club (just mostly for handguns) and the other in an outdoor club for rifles and specifically for shooting steel ammo.
 
Barnaul made some great soft point ammo but sadly we cannot get it anymore
PMC makes some 7.62x39 ammo too if you can find some, as does PPU but your paying 25 to 30 bucks a box so your over a buck a round
You might have to bite the bullet and get into reloading if you can't find the ammo you need
 
To get into reloading these days, at prices for new reloading tools - not going to save a whole lot of money any more. You will likely produce equivalent rounds for less price for components, but will be using thousands of dollars in tooling to do so - if you believe sales people. If you can come into some older reloading tool stuff for decent price, or free - reloading becomes a solution. Even components can become a real challenge to find - there is apparently lots of Large Rifle Primers available at $0.40 each, or more ... A bullet, brass casing, powder and primer about components needed - likely depends a lot where you are for what that costs. Then, one or more reloading manuals to learn how to reload - then "work up" some recipes for YOUR components in YOUR rifle - nothing to it!
 
Depending what kind of shooting you do. Pulling bullets on surplus and stuffing the cheapest .310 123gr reloading bullets in can be cost effective but surplus ammo tends to be sealed and crimped and the bullets aren't always easily pulled. Also to do this easily a collet bullet puller and a decent press is a must. If you save the old bullets someone would probably buy a few hundred from you for 0.05-0.10/bullet. So you would come in probably under $1 round at the end depending on the surplus you got and the replacement bullets. Lot of time though. Depends what you value time vs money
 
To get into reloading these days, at prices for new reloading tools - not going to save a whole lot of money any more. You will likely produce equivalent rounds for less price for components, but will be using thousands of dollars in tooling to do so - if you believe sales people. If you can come into some older reloading tool stuff for decent price, or free - reloading becomes a solution. Even components can become a real challenge to find - there is apparently lots of Large Rifle Primers available at $0.40 each, or more ... A bullet, brass casing, powder and primer about components needed - likely depends a lot where you are for what that costs. Then, one or more reloading manuals to learn how to reload - then "work up" some recipes for YOUR components in YOUR rifle - nothing to it!

Despite what people are telling you, Lee makes decent loaders. A few hundred and you are ready to go if you are using a single stage press. This is what I would use for rifle ammo, 7.62x39 is not difficult.
 
PPU 123 grain PSP is some dandy ammo, but it is hunting rifle prices for sure. The brass is very nice for reloading. I ran some over my chronograph yesterday through my CZ527 and it was consistently over 2500 fps.
 
Despite what people are telling you, Lee makes decent loaders. A few hundred and you are ready to go if you are using a single stage press. This is what I would use for rifle ammo, 7.62x39 is not difficult.

I started to reload in late 1970's with the old school Lee Loaders - is probably still 3 of them around here - I still use some parts from some. The old "whack-a-mole" type - just needed something like a wood board or soft head hammer to pound the cases in, to neck size - the kit included a scoop and a chart for what powder to get for what weight bullet - a "levelled" scoop of powder into that brass and good to go. Then, over the years, many more dollars spent to get "extras" - like a press, sizing and seating dies, scale, etc. I do not know if those Lee Loader kits are still made or not - had to be used with brass previously fired in your rifle, though, and had to get the kit specifically for your cartridge of interest.
 
Win, Federal, Hornady, PPU, MFS all make modern lead core non corrosive x39 ammo. It’s not very cost effective unless you just want to shoot a box or two, you’re better off finding a club that allows steel core or a spot of crown land that’s safe to shoot at.
 
. Shooting out of an approved range, as suggested by other poster, is nearly next to impossible in Ontario.

I live just outside of Waterloo and have never fired a single round from any of my NR at a range. Just have to hook up with the right folks.
 
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