7.62x39 SBR AR-15

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As these new 7.62x39 ARs keep coming out I cant help but dream of one with a 7.5-10" barrel. From my understanding the 7.62x39 performs very similar to the .300 blackout round and would similarly be great out of a short barreled AR (without the reloading or high ammo costs). Has anyone heard of such a rifle here or in the USA?

Thanks,
Ryan
 
thump_rrr said:
I wouldn't use junk corrosive ammo so my reloading costs would be similar and I would need a proprietary bolt and mags so no thanks.
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Hard to argue with around $220/1320 rounds, even if it takes 10 min of cleanup at the end of the day.

Alternatively there is non-corrosive LCW available at around $240/1000. Or Norinco, also non-corrosive for around the same price.
Plus it's 30 cal!

Best I've seen on 556 is around $320/1150 rnds.
 
drifter dave said:
Hard to argue with around $220/1320 rounds, even if it takes 10 min of cleanup at the end of the day.

Alternatively there is non-corrosive LCW available at around $240/1000. Or Norinco, also non-corrosive for around the same price.
Plus it's 30 cal!

Best I've seen on 556 is around $320/1150 rnds.
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I really don't see the difference of shooting one caliber over another through the same firearm when shooting a restricted at a piece of paper.
I own M14 pattern rifles and an M1 Garand so when I want to shoot semi auto .30 I have other options.

I reload my own and 5.56 loaded with IMR 8208(XBR) and Hornady 55gr FMJ's cost me $220.00/1,000.
But they shoot less than 1/4 the group size of Norinco ammo.
I still have more than 1 case of Norc 5.56/1160rnds which I bought during the ammo shortage last year to have on hand.

These are my hand loads at 50M through my Noveske using an EOtech with no magnification as seen through my spotting scope.

 
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cr5 said:
Well at least they designed a magazine specifically for the x39 cartridge.
I still have on interest in anything that fires that cartridge. I'll buy a CZ or an SKS if I want to shoot that cartridge. 300BLK is so much more versatile and is so easy to load for and find bullets.
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Somehow, despite using AR-pattern mags, I managed to run a 7.62x39 AR through an entire 3 gun match yesterday without a single issue. Even won my division.

Must have just been lucky.
 
Stevo said:
Somehow, despite using AR-pattern mags, I managed to run a 7.62x39 AR through an entire 3 gun match yesterday without a single issue. Even won my division.

Must have just been lucky.
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how many rounds in the mags? The problem becomes very aparent when you are using in places you can use full capacity mags.
 
Brian46 said:
how many rounds in the mags? The problem becomes very aparent when you are using in places you can use full capacity mags.
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10 round pistol mags loaded to capacity.

I was in Edmonton, not Mogadishu. As far as the "very apparent" problems, Big Red has posted numerous times that the 30 round AR-pattern mags work well.

What is your personal experience with these magazines?
 
Stevo said:
10 round pistol mags loaded to capacity.

I was in Edmonton, not Mogadishu. As far as the "very apparent" problems, Big Red has posted numerous times that the 30 round AR-pattern mags work well.

What is your personal experience with these magazines?
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first of all, regular capacity mags are 30, you may consider 10 a high cap but that is only because of our laws. My experience is the same as those countless posts you can read from the USA on the problems. The more curved ASC mags are a step in the right direction, but the AR with the AK mags looks to be the best solution so far.
 
Where did I say anything about 10 rounds being "high cap"?

Your experience reading posts on the internet is nice, but not relevant to the situation in Canada.

The 10 round mags work. Period. Real or imagined shortcomings with mags we can't use here are not relevant.

I post factual info from personal experience.
 
Stevo said:
Where did I say anything about 10 rounds being "high cap"?

Your experience reading posts on the internet is nice, but not relevant to the situation in Canada.

The 10 round mags work. Period. Real or imagined shortcomings with mags we can't use here are not relevant.

I post factual info from personal experience.
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you are saying I have no experience when I just stated mine while running 30rndrs in the US supports what people post about them all the time...... Why not just call me a liar flat out rather than beating around the bush?
 
But they shoot less than 1/4 the group size of Norinco ammo
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What is your twist rate? I get similar groups to your photo at 50, benchrested, using Norinco through a 1:9 - sorry to break it to ya. Anyways I'm not talking about reloading, I'm talking about buying bulk ammo and shooting a lot, like 4-600 per range trip. So shooting 7.62x39 at 50% the cost is very interesting to me. Also, Norinco bulk is getting scarce and they have no means to bring more in. So I guess there's Tula, MFS, or Barnaul for cheap stuff, or Federal at $460/1000 for mid-range stuff.

The 10 round mags work. Period. Real or imagined shortcomings with mags we can't use here are not relevant.

I post factual info from personal experience.
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People love to jump on the bandwagon without even trying something themselves.
 
Stevo said:
10 round pistol mags loaded to capacity.

I was in Edmonton, not Mogadishu. As far as the "very apparent" problems, Big Red has posted numerous times that the 30 round AR-pattern mags work well.

What is your personal experience with these magazines?
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I'm referring to regular capacity 30 round mags which I agree are useless to us here now, but I do hold high hopes that the magazine capacity laws can be overturned and we will hopefully be back to using them to their designed capacity. At which point you will be singing a very different tune and there will be quite a few guys on here dumbfounded as to why their rifle won't function anymore. If you remember my posts about this in other threads I always mention that for 8-10 rounds they work fine FOR MOST PEOPLE but there are a few that do have problems with their 10 round LAR mags and that if we do win the battle and you can stuff however many x39 rounds in as it will hold you will have nothing but problems. Which is why I thought the Armalite rifle with the banana mag was a huge improvement over just throwing a different follower in as most companies do.

I don't feel like arguing this again, I stated my opinion and we know your's. Run whatever you want, that's your decision but when the LAR mags become useless garbage you can't even give away when the NFA and CSSA win us some rigths back I'll be laughing at all of you.
I'd rather pay a little more for ammo or reload to keep costs down than run that crap through my $2000 rifles.
If all I was concerned with was shooting as many rounds down range per day as I could for as low of cost as possible I'd still have my SKS or would have upgraded to an 858. There are better options out there and even if they cost a little more I think they are worth it.
 
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