The 15 round cardboard box ammo is said to be corrosive, however: http://districorp.ca/English/ammunition.htm
Any thoughts?
-Rohann
Any thoughts?
-Rohann
7.62x54R Hungarian Corrosive?
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I get a bad gateway with your link. I take it you mean this stuff. >>Districorp Ammo<< (1/2 way down)
I've got a bunch of the 148 grain. It shoots fine, half-decent accuracy, but its probably corrosive. Just clean properly after firing and you'll have no problems.
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I've got a bunch of the 148 grain. It shoots fine, half-decent accuracy, but its probably corrosive. Just clean properly after firing and you'll have no problems.
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Rohann. I have been shooting corrosive milsurp ammo for years. Here are a couple of things that I learned along the way.
- Assume all milsurp ammo is corrosive until you have proven your lot to not be. This is especially true for any comblock ammo, or ammo made in the ~60s or before.
- Using corrosive ammo is completely fine, just clean with hot soapy water, and be sure to dry all parts as soon as possible afterwards.
As for the Hungarian ball, here are my experiences. I bought 2 cases which were sold to be as non-corrosive. They have a 52 headstamp. I tested it, and it tested corrosive. I treated it as such, didn't really care either way, just wanted to know. I always clean my guns after I shoot them. Only diff with corrosive is that I clean them at the range.
One day at the range there was a guy with several Mosins, and judging by how he shot them, and enjoyed them, he knew his milsurps. He said he had been shooting 52 Hungarian ball that he tested as noncorrosive, and did not clean his guns afterwards. Comparing our cartridges, there was nothing different that we could tell.
So, either my test is wrong, his test is wrong, and he has been lucky so far, but is in for a mess, or, there are both corrosive and non-corrosive Hungarian ball out there with a 52 headstamp.
In the end, both the light and heavy Hungarian ball that I shot was good stuff. Most of what I had I shot into a 4 inch by 10 inch steel gong and 200m. It would shoot well enough for that as long as I waited for the barrel to cool.
- Assume all milsurp ammo is corrosive until you have proven your lot to not be. This is especially true for any comblock ammo, or ammo made in the ~60s or before.
- Using corrosive ammo is completely fine, just clean with hot soapy water, and be sure to dry all parts as soon as possible afterwards.
As for the Hungarian ball, here are my experiences. I bought 2 cases which were sold to be as non-corrosive. They have a 52 headstamp. I tested it, and it tested corrosive. I treated it as such, didn't really care either way, just wanted to know. I always clean my guns after I shoot them. Only diff with corrosive is that I clean them at the range.
One day at the range there was a guy with several Mosins, and judging by how he shot them, and enjoyed them, he knew his milsurps. He said he had been shooting 52 Hungarian ball that he tested as noncorrosive, and did not clean his guns afterwards. Comparing our cartridges, there was nothing different that we could tell.
So, either my test is wrong, his test is wrong, and he has been lucky so far, but is in for a mess, or, there are both corrosive and non-corrosive Hungarian ball out there with a 52 headstamp.
In the end, both the light and heavy Hungarian ball that I shot was good stuff. Most of what I had I shot into a 4 inch by 10 inch steel gong and 200m. It would shoot well enough for that as long as I waited for the barrel to cool.
Nope. If its milsurp combloc, its corrosive, just ask my mosins. Two of them had been shot with"they told me it was non corrosive" ammo & I spent two hours each scrubbing nice fluffy fresh rust out of the bores. One of them might be a write-off.
Berdan primed = corrosive.
Comblock milsurp = corrosive.
Districorp and many, many other surplus dealers list their milsurp comblock as 'berdan primed, non-corrosive' and that is targeted at uninformed people.
Comblock milsurp = corrosive.
Districorp and many, many other surplus dealers list their milsurp comblock as 'berdan primed, non-corrosive' and that is targeted at uninformed people.
I think we have been over this almost to death before. Any and all hungarian ammo i have met is corrosive(including the 15 pack 762x54 you talked about and the 762x39).why take the chance that its not, proper cleaning is only a boiled kettle away...
I just cleaned the Nagant: first with a patch soaked in Windex, a brush with Hoppes #9 powder solvent, a clean patch, a patch with #9 powder solvent, another clean patch, then a patch with a bit of oil. Cleaned the bolt face with the same stuff. Did I clean it properly?
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Rohann said:
Sounds about right.
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Rohann said:
The priming compound is what determines corrosiveness, not the primer type (boxer/berdan). There is lots of non-corrosive berdan primed ammo around, swiss GP11 would be an example. Lots of corrosive boxer primed around prior to 1950 as well, not very common anymore though.
You are right, from the chemistry point of view, Berdan does not equal corrosive. But from the point of view of buying milsurp ammo in Canada in 2006, Berdan primed equals corrosive in 99% cases.
I did not know GP11 milsurp was non-corrosive. Are you sure?
I did not know GP11 milsurp was non-corrosive. Are you sure?
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