7.62x54r surplus

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i was wondering if it will ever go the way of 303 brit, i have a custom Mosin and a stock Mosin that i shoot corrosive surplus out of and i clean both so its ok but will surplus ever dry up.i know the Russians still use it in the PKM's and i know the Chinese use it for...god only knows what.
anybody hear of ether of them replacing it as a service caliber anytime soon
 
Eventually it will. But not for a long time. Russia is still feeding SVD rifles ane MGs. China too i think. Should be surplus 54r for a while unless the government decides to cut it off.
 
Buy it now while it is readily available & still relatively cheap! It won't go down in price and when it's gone ..... it's gone. How long that will be is anyone's guess since as others have said it doesn't necessarily have to be a lack of supply ..... the man might slam the door in our face some day??? Who know what circumstance will be in the future.
You have been warned! Don't be one of these guy's five years from now sniveling about how there's none left or no cheap stuff left. Stack it high & dry.
 
The surplus we buy now was made and stockpiled for WW3. The USSR was getting ready in a big way for a huge conflict and manufactured billions of rounds. Their production now is a pittance by comparison with very little being sold as surplus relative to the Cold War stockpiles. Saying that they still use 7.62x54R so we can still get surplus until they stop using it is like saying people still use steam locomotives some places so there should be plenty of run down engines to be sold as scrap. Just because something is still in use doesn't mean it's still being mass produced at the levels that result in huge amounts of surplus. It wont disappear but prices will steadily rise.

The same goes for 7.62x25 and 7.62x39. Both are still in use but not nearly as much as in their golden years. Almost all countries that used them have switched to 9x18, 9x19, or 9x21 for almost all of their pistols and 5.45x39 for all their main infantry weapons. The African warlords, terrorist insurgents, and various freedom fighter groups around the world using AK-47's are largely tapping into and using up ex-Soviet surplus ammo reserves, just like us Canadians. I remember seeing one picture of ISIS fighters with crates of 7.62x39 and realized the crates had identical markings to the crate sitting in my garage. It wont truly run out because it is still being made but once the huge glut from the Cold War is gone prices will increase, probably significantly. Even the new manufacture Norinco stuff is only as cheap as it is because it's still somewhat competing with the Soviet surplus. Once competition is reduced, prices will increase.

As the saying goes; 'buy it cheap and stack it deep'. A lifetimes supply now may cost less than a 5 year supply later.
 
X54r is not going to be removed from service like 303 any time soon. China and Russia still make new weapons in this caliber. Look at Canada ammo sight. they have crates of 2011 produced MG ammo. China will be producing this cartridge untill hell freezes over even if Russia stops using it, which will never happen. They may change bullet weight or use newer materials in production, but it will be available for long time.
 
X54r is not going to be removed from service like 303 any time soon. China and Russia still make new weapons in this caliber. Look at Canada ammo sight. they have crates of 2011 produced MG ammo. China will be producing this cartridge untill hell freezes over even if Russia stops using it, which will never happen. They may change bullet weight or use newer materials in production, but it will be available for long time.

Ah yes, perhaps but ........ will we be able to get it?? & if so .... at what price? A bird in the hand as they say ......
 
The surplus we buy now was made and stockpiled for WW3. The USSR was getting ready in a big way for a huge conflict and manufactured billions of rounds. Their production now is a pittance by comparison with very little being sold as surplus relative to the Cold War stockpiles. Saying that they still use 7.62x54R so we can still get surplus until they stop using it is like saying people still use steam locomotives some places so there should be plenty of run down engines to be sold as scrap. Just because something is still in use doesn't mean it's still being mass produced at the levels that result in huge amounts of surplus. It wont disappear but prices will steadily rise.

The same goes for 7.62x25 and 7.62x39. Both are still in use but not nearly as much as in their golden years. Almost all countries that used them have switched to 9x18, 9x19, or 9x21 for almost all of their pistols and 5.45x39 for all their main infantry weapons. The African warlords, terrorist insurgents, and various freedom fighter groups around the world using AK-47's are largely tapping into and using up ex-Soviet surplus ammo reserves, just like us Canadians. I remember seeing one picture of ISIS fighters with crates of 7.62x39 and realized the crates had identical markings to the crate sitting in my garage. It wont truly run out because it is still being made but once the huge glut from the Cold War is gone prices will increase, probably significantly. Even the new manufacture Norinco stuff is only as cheap as it is because it's still somewhat competing with the Soviet surplus. Once competition is reduced, prices will increase.

As the saying goes; 'buy it cheap and stack it deep'. A lifetimes supply now may cost less than a 5 year supply later.

Well said.
I am glad I bought as much 8x57 Mauser as I did a decade ago.
 
Yep I've been buying x54r and x39 surplus as much as my budget will allow regardless of how little I've been out shooting. I don't want to be caught scrambling when it starts to run dry, or doubles in price. As the saying goes, buy it cheap and stack it deep. Once I shoot through these crates I'll be able to make some nice muskoka chairs with the wood!
 
X54r is still being used and produced in many countries. Much of the surplus we see on the market is stock rotation rather than disposal of no longer needed inventory.
 
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