700P vs 700P LTR

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Well boys and girls. I have been pondering about purchaseing a precision rifle for a while now. I got looking at these 2 in .308. Would I be better off purchaseing the 700P with the 26" tube, over the LTR with the 20" tube? Is that the only diffrence between the 2? Or should I pay more and get the
700P TWS? What other makes/ models should I also look at? Thanks.
 
Up to 300m in 308, you won't fin any noticable differences in accuracy between the P and LTR. Beyond that, it is theorically better with a 26'' barrel.
 
Actually, my LTR performs better between 200m and 600m. I'll get 1" groups at both 100 and 200 with it spreading to about 1.25"-1.5" at both 300 and 400. After 600m it starts to turn sour. Mind you past 400m its only been on steel. I think for the weight savings it is a good option.
 
The 700TWS is the same rifle as either the 700P or LTR depending on which "Tactical WeaponSystem" you order, same drill with the PSS or "Police Sniping System" which has been deemed politically incorrect hence the TWS. All it consists of is overpriced scope, case, rings and case. Better to but what you want and get it at a better price than Remington offers it for.

The 700P has a wide forearm and palmswell along with a 26" barrel.
The LTR has a thinner forearm, no palm swell and a 20" fluted barrel.
Both have HS stocks, so quality is the same.
In my opinion a lighter rifle is harder to shoot accurately, as it moves more with your breathing.
KK
 
I was in the same dilemma back in April/May. Go back far enough on this page and you will find an almost identical thread.

I settled on the LTR, very happy with it. I would find the P to be more of a range rifle but the LTR is just as happy in the bush as it is on a bench. Due to its weight (less than the P still) is more handy as a stationary hunting rifle in either a tree stand or prone somewhere, etc, but as for shooting standing the HB makes it pretty wavy. So thusly I only use that rifle when i'm hunting stationary.

One thing to keep in mind though is a problem with the HSP stocks when it comes to affixing bipods. have come across this problem both on my own and on a Sendero that my uncle just acquired. The forend sling stud likes to bend and break with recoil really easily as the hole for it isn't that great. I had my g'smith custom make a heavy duty sling stud so I don't get that problem anymore. The sendero he got I inspected and it had the same signs of wear. The stud was just about to snap. So think about that for either.

The LTR is a great gun though as is the P but I find the LTR more versatile IMO.
 
KDX said:
:dancingbanana: Good one. First time I ever used that smilie too.


Seeing how he never mentioned the intended useage, I guess you're right! He might be using it as a very expensive tomato stake for all we know?
 
If paper punching is the plan the longer barrel would likely be the better to get. Especially if longer range shooting is in the plan. The added velocity will make long range shooting a little easier as there will be less trajectory to compesate for.
KK
 
2bad4u2 said:
The LTR is quite capable of making it to 1,000 yards. Check out this guy's web site. He's very well experienced with the LTR. Contact him, he's a great source of information.

http://www.ltrdavid.net/

I'm sure it is quite capable, but I never reached more than 600yds with mine..That is why I'm putting a like new, 26'' 700P barrel on it, so I can reach out a bit further..

In theory, you could hit far with the LTR, but it was never meant for it. Hope you plan to put a lot of clicks on your scope...(I can only imagine a well arched rainbow at 1000yds with a 20'' barrel)
 
there are a few shooters pushing the (VERYHIGH BC)154 scenar, 46.5 grs Imr4895, 210m primers, 2.820 COL in Win Brass, at 2998 fps out of the LTR!! sub MOA goups with a 100 yard ) you would need like 28MOA to 1000Yards!!!!thats awesome!!

Jamie Barkwell
 
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