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greyman441
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- Wasaga Beach, ON
I had one that was sporterized with a Lymens sight and being a newbie I didnt know what it was worth and sold it for 150 on the EE. Since then I have never seen another one. I was told it was chambered in .303 british but nothing about being B.P. The previous owner told be it fired great with modern .303 britsh but if I were you I would fire it with caution or get it checked by a smith.
Assuming the carbine is issue, it is a Martini Enfield, or perhaps a Martini Metford. Five groove or seven groove barrel. These conversions were intended to be used with standard issue .303 ammunition. They are strong. Firing pin diameter has been reduced to prevent pierced primers.
Martini Henrys are .577/.450 caliber.
Martini Henrys are .577/.450 caliber.
BTW, .577/.450 is a .45" calibe. It was based on the old .577" Snider casing, stretched out to 2.34" and necked to a .45. Also known as the "Short Chamber Boxer" round to differentiate from a full-length .45 Boxer-type rolled cartridge which could hold 85 grains of RFG #2 powder. There were NO military .577" Martinis made, although a few were turned out by the Trade for hunting Elephant and other bignasties; they are very rare.
With the original barrels, they are Martini-HENRYS and have HENRY ratchet rifling.
Changed over to a .303, they are Martini-METFORDS if using the old METFORD segmental rifling, Martini-ENFIELDS if using the ENFIELD 5-groove rifling with equal lands and grooves. The presence or absence of an "E" on the Knox-form tells you which you have.
The Martini ACTION is one of the strongest ever made. It also has the quickest LOCK TIME of anything ever built, which is why it is still in production today.
The .303" barrels were all proofed for a Service pressure of 18.5 Imperial Long Tons per square inch (41,440 psi), precisely the same as the Lee-Enfield and Pattern 14 bolt-actions.
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With the original barrels, they are Martini-HENRYS and have HENRY ratchet rifling.
Changed over to a .303, they are Martini-METFORDS if using the old METFORD segmental rifling, Martini-ENFIELDS if using the ENFIELD 5-groove rifling with equal lands and grooves. The presence or absence of an "E" on the Knox-form tells you which you have.
The Martini ACTION is one of the strongest ever made. It also has the quickest LOCK TIME of anything ever built, which is why it is still in production today.
The .303" barrels were all proofed for a Service pressure of 18.5 Imperial Long Tons per square inch (41,440 psi), precisely the same as the Lee-Enfield and Pattern 14 bolt-actions.
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bdft
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I have owned two Martini-Enfields and a friend owns another. All of them will devour factory 303, handloads, Mk 7 ball, you name it. They are a blast to shoot and with a little practice, you can keep up an impressive rate of fire.
if its a genuine martini enfield it will shoot factory loads no problem.
If someones actually seen, held and shot one of these, they will see the proof marks on the barrels are the same as for lee enfield, as smellie has mentioned. Mine shoots much better compared to my 303 bolt guns, if I do my part with the terrible sights that are on the martini.
You will get alot of "anecdotal" info on these .303 martinis and the remington rolling blocks in 7mm mauser more then most military single shots I can think of. Most from sources that have never even seen or used these guns.
If someones actually seen, held and shot one of these, they will see the proof marks on the barrels are the same as for lee enfield, as smellie has mentioned. Mine shoots much better compared to my 303 bolt guns, if I do my part with the terrible sights that are on the martini.
You will get alot of "anecdotal" info on these .303 martinis and the remington rolling blocks in 7mm mauser more then most military single shots I can think of. Most from sources that have never even seen or used these guns.
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We should ALL haul our Martinis out of storage and head for the range on the same day.
The clouds of smoke would obscure the nearest cities!
"Front rank present, FIRE!
"Reload.
"Second rank present, FIRE!
"Reload.
"Rear rank present, FIRE!
"Reload.
"Front rank present, FIRE!......."
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The clouds of smoke would obscure the nearest cities!
"Front rank present, FIRE!
"Reload.
"Second rank present, FIRE!
"Reload.
"Rear rank present, FIRE!
"Reload.
"Front rank present, FIRE!......."
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- WMU248 near Edmonton
ah you need to add in the 'advance' in order to help clear the smoke cloud and see what your aiming at
