762 54R Ammo for Hunting

If one were to blunt the spitser and drill some of the nose material out, making a hollow point, would that satisfy as "hunting ammo"?
 
I had an idea of this but after firing 4 rounds of 200gr out of my Mosin M38 and another 5 rounds of the 91/30 I decided to abandon the idea… I thought my shoulder was dislocated after that!
 
my local canadian tire had lots of sp for sale until i purchased the lot and put them away as i know the supply was not going to last.
 
Painkillers said:
If one were to blunt the spitser and drill some of the nose material out, making a hollow point, would that satisfy as "hunting ammo"?
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You mean remove the tip on an FMJ to expose the lead below? It wouldn't be an FMJ anymore, thats for sure...

I've heard that doing such things runs the risk of blowing the lead straight out the jacket and leaving a jacket in your bore though (the lead base is often exposed on FMJ bullets). Maybe thats just an old wives tale, but .311cal bullets are available and affordable so I'd just pull the bullets and make mexican match rather than messing with the FMJ bullets themselves if all I could find was milsurp 762x54r.

KGB2014 said:
I had an idea of this but after firing 4 rounds of 200gr out of my Mosin M38 and another 5 rounds of the 91/30 I decided to abandon the idea… I thought my shoulder was dislocated after that!
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You could get a slip on recoil pad. I have one for my SKS and Enfield, not really because of the recoil, more as a cheap and easy way to increase the LOP, but it works for recoil too.
 
KGB2014 said:
I had an idea of this but after firing 4 rounds of 200gr out of my Mosin M38 and another 5 rounds of the 91/30 I decided to abandon the idea… I thought my shoulder was dislocated after that!
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I thought the same till I spent more time shooting a Mosin freehand, I find any milsurp with a metal butt plate to have more felt recoil when shooting from a bench. It’s a whole lot nicer when you’re shooting standing or kneeling and slung up tight.

I was bruised for a week the last outing with my 91/30 off the bench and it was only a box or two that I shot lol.
 
Suther said:
You mean remove the tip on an FMJ to expose the lead below? It wouldn't be an FMJ anymore, thats for sure...

I've heard that doing such things runs the risk of blowing the lead straight out the jacket and leaving a jacket in your bore though (the lead base is often exposed on FMJ bullets). Maybe thats just an old wives tale, but .311cal bullets are available and affordable so I'd just pull the bullets and make mexican match rather than messing with the FMJ bullets themselves if all I could find was milsurp 762x54r.
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That's precisely what I was suggesting. While I hadn't anticipated the gas blowing the lead out through the jacket, which I suppose it's possible, I think that would be very unlikely. The main concern as I see it could be accuracy. Modifying the projectile could impart an imbalance to it, producing nothing but "flyers"?
If I had an old sewer pipe Mosin, I'd be doing some experimenting with the ball ammo rather than trying to locate hunting sp ammo.

I suppose my question was; should a game warden come across someone with downed Moose and Mosin in hand, if asked to show the ammo used, would modified ball ammo (if it even works), be legal in the eyes of the game warden, or is he going to be taking a position that it's ball ammo (prohibited for hunting with.)?
 
The idea of shooting the core out of a modified FMJ has been around for a long time. Roy Weatherby tried to do it and couldn't/didn't.

This isn't to say it couldn't happen or that East Block FMJ's are the same as US bullets.

Various 311/12 bullets are available, I'd Mexican Match with those before I'd make home made hollowpoints as has been advised already.
 
Painkillers said:
That's precisely what I was suggesting. While I hadn't anticipated the gas blowing the lead out through the jacket, which I suppose it's possible, I think that would be very unlikely. The main concern as I see it could be accuracy. Modifying the projectile could impart an imbalance to it, producing nothing but "flyers"?
If I had an old sewer pipe Mosin, I'd be doing some experimenting with the ball ammo rather than trying to locate hunting sp ammo.

I suppose my question was; should a game warden come across someone with downed Moose and Mosin in hand, if asked to show the ammo used, would modified ball ammo (if it even works), be legal in the eyes of the game warden, or is he going to be taking a position that it's ball ammo (prohibited for hunting with.)?
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Without a tip how would he ever know it was ball ammo? If it has no tip is it even still ball ammo?

I would think as long as the CO can see exposed lead, he would have no reason to believe it is not expanding ammo.
 
I've got a box of MFS i think it is of 200gr soft points in 7.62x54. I think MFS is made by Barnaul?
Anyhow I have not seen any of this stuff for years now. The OP might have to reload or get someone to load him up some if he want's specific hunting ammo
 
Deathrawt said:
I've got a box of MFS i think it is of 200gr soft points in 7.62x54. I think MFS is made by Barnaul?
Anyhow I have not seen any of this stuff for years now. The OP might have to reload or get someone to load him up some if he want's specific hunting ammo
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Not set up for reloading so the hunt continues.

Appreciate all the feedback gents.
 
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