7MM rem. mag. opinions

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Hey, looking for some opinions/advice here. Getting into longer range shooting. I currently shoot a 220 swift and a 50 BMG, nothing in the middle range. I found a nice looking Ruger today M77 in 7mm Rem. Mag, adjustable trigger, stock and aftermarket barrell .
What do these shoot like, are they reasonably accurate, can they be ??
Any opinions or experiences with them would be nice to hear. :confused:

Mike.
 
Actually, with the right bullets, your 7mm can be made to shoot flatter than you 50 BMG (for the first few hundred yards).

Anyway, the Ruger is a nice rifle and has a CRF (if that matters to you). How it'll shoot greatly depends on what sort of 'aftermarket barrel' is installed, and who did the work. As well as, of course, round count.
 
Additional info.

Spoke to my buddy at the store since my posting before dinner, and,
He's pulling the stock off to check for part numbers, gonna see who's barrell is on it and what twist.
Phoned an older shooting buddy of mine who also works at a gun store and picked his brain, although he's been a life long ruger fan and still is, I told him the decision was between 2 rifles, the ruger I menioned and a Browning A-Bolt, M1000 .270 wsm with the boss system barrell, $700 cheaper. He's saying the the Browning is a smoking rifle too and can be tuned to shoot down to almost 1/8th " groups at 100. Now I'm really undecided, laff.
Mike.:runaway:
 
I second the :bsFlag:. The brownings are fine but .125" is benchrest quality, good enought to place in matches. And I have never seen a Browning win benchrest. Go with the 7mm, higher ballistic co-efficient and better match bullets.
 
Thanks for your input guys but....

Shot a match today , asked most of the shooters (friendly bunch) about the two and one of the guys leading the local ORA shoots said to avoid both and gave me other options.

Mike.
 
Ice-Pick said:
Shot a match today , asked most of the shooters (friendly bunch) about the two and one of the guys leading the local ORA shoots said to avoid both and gave me other options.

Mike.
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Most F-class shooters that win regularly, shoot custom bolt action rifles, usually in 6.5X284 cal. Remington actions seem to dominate as well as custom stocks and barrels. Having said that, any rifle that can shoot accurately consistently can be used in F-class shooting. The kicker is the caliber that can shoot a bullet with high BC and velocity in order to minimize the effect of wind changes on scoring :cool:
 
Ice-Pick said:
I told him the decision was between 2 rifles, the ruger I menioned and a Browning A-Bolt, M1000 .270 wsm with the boss system barrell, $700 cheaper.
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The Browning is 700 bux cheaper than the Ruger?

How much is the Ruger? And it's got to have had more than a barrel added.
 
Saw a shot on Wild Tv with 7mm mag at 620 yards on a grizzly bear using 185 berger bullets. two shots and he was dead dead
 
With the right barrel and bullet/load, the 7RM is a tack driver at 1000m.

My smallest 3rds group on paper is 2 5/8" measured at the Sidley 1000m fun shoot.

A Tikka Varminter shot by two shooters on two days shot 3.5" and 4" 3rds groups at this springs event.

The UK 1000yd BR class record was set by a 7WSM in 2006.

The 7mm has a lot to offer and the 168/180gr Berger, 162gr AMax are the bullets to beat. The 180gr Berger at 2900 to 3000fps has ballistics that very few bullets can match.

Whether this rifle you are looking at will shoot is hard to say. If not more then a used rifle, sure why not. But if near brand new custom rifle pricing, just build your own. The Ruger is not the usual choice for building tack drivers.

If you want this cartridge, I can strongly recommend Guntech to assemble one for you. His reamer is one of the nicest I have seen for a belted case and he knows how to spin the barrels on straight.

Kreiger, Gaillard make superb barrels and the Savage/Stevens action will make it shoot for dirt cheap.

I am playing with a 7 Mystic (my version of the 280AI) and it has done very well out to 1000m. Will push the 180gr Berger to 2800+fps and 162gr Amax 2900+fps. Not bad from a 24" shilen barrel.

Jerry
 
Jerry
Who is Guntech are they in Canada.
Who has a target grade chamber reamer 6.5x284 .292 neck? I am in the process of building an accurate Ruger #1 hunting rifle with a 25"octagon barrel.

Thanks Fred M.
 
I have a few 7mm Rem Mag's though I never really liked the cartridge as I found it was a bit of a dog once bullet weight exceeded 150gr. Lower velocities, lots of powder and tones of pressure.

What does shoot great is the 139gr. I has a great ballistic coefficient around .450 in Hornady SST. I have shot by far the most game with that load.

My load I shoot (and i works for me is) 139gr Hornady, 66gr IMR 4831, 3100fps
 
rem338win said:
I second the :bsFlag:. The brownings are fine but .125" is benchrest quality, good enought to place in matches. And I have never seen a Browning win benchrest. Go with the 7mm, higher ballistic co-efficient and better match bullets.
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x3 Browning is not what I would call accurate, and Rugers are not much better.
7Rem Mag is great caliber, I have a few and love them, not as much as my 300s mind you.
I have been able to make a few Rugers shoot pretty well as in under 1/2 moa consistently but it takes a pile of work/cash.
I refuse to waste my time and skill on a Browning unless it is pre 1970 or belt fed.
 
I've got a semi-custom Remington in 7mm Rem mag that is a close second in accuracy behind my 6mmbr. Shoots the 175 SMK @ 3000 fps into bitty groups at 100 yards, and shoots under 1 MOA at 550 yards. I tried the 180 berger but it didn't do as goods as the 175 SMK. It is a real fun gun to shoot!
 
I hear you splatter the browning is cheaper? what do you want to do with this rifle (shoot paper, or moose?). If you are hung up on shootin paper for competition the look to the 7mm wsm. if you want a killin machine, then buy yourself a 7mm stw, i've owned one for years and it shoots flatter than any of them sniper rifles that they all preach about in those magazines. drops moose with 140 partitions no problem at 400 yards.
 
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