8 round clips in a M-1 Garand....

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I know in the past the M-1 Garand was an exception to the 5 round limit due to the Garand clips being 8 rounds. Is this still the case or has something changed?

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Ive heard you can get 5 round and 2 round enblocs for the Garand as well as the 8 round ones. Good for the service rifle matches where you shoot 10 round strings.
 
What about lee enfields? Lets not forget them.

Well they do not have to be pinned to 5 rounds, you can shoot any bolt action with as many rounds as you want, (ala: k98 with mg13 mag), but I'm not sure you can hunt with 10 rounds in a Lee... If I am wrong, that would be awesome though. No real need to have 10 rounds for hunting I guess, but what the hell, If I can do it for the sake of doing it, damnit I will!
 
Well they do not have to be pinned to 5 rounds, you can shoot any bolt action with as many rounds as you want, (ala: k98 with mg13 mag), but I'm not sure you can hunt with 10 rounds in a Lee... If I am wrong, that would be awesome though. No real need to have 10 rounds for hunting I guess, but what the hell, If I can do it for the sake of doing it, damnit I will!

I myself was confused as to why the Enfield was given a specific magazine exemption in the legislation since it seemed pretty clear that the mag limits applied only to semi-auto centerfires
 
I myself was confused as to why the Enfield was given a specific magazine exemption in the legislation since it seemed pretty clear that the mag limits applied only to semi-auto centerfires

Apparently there is some kind of semi rifle out there that takes enfield mags. Also in WWII the New Zealanders made a conversion kit to make an automatic SMLE. There were not enough Bren guns to go around at the time, so they came up with this desperation conversion. I don't remember what it was called, or how many htey made, but this might have something to do with it also. There is usually a reason for what the feds do, no matter how crazy or illogical.
 
Federal firearms regulations allow the Garand M1 an exception to the five round magazine capacity limit for centre-fire calibre semi-auto long guns.

Provincial hunting regulations do not have to conform entirely to federal firearms regulations. They can be more restrictive. If you are asking because you want to take it hunting, check your province's hunting regulations for limits on magazine capacity.
 
Well they do not have to be pinned to 5 rounds, you can shoot any bolt action with as many rounds as you want, (ala: k98 with mg13 mag), but I'm not sure you can hunt with 10 rounds in a Lee...

No, that's not true. It's the firearm the magazine was designed for that the limiting factor, not what it's used in.

An MG13 mag would be required to be pinned at 5, as the MG13 is definitely not a bolt gun. But I've never heard a good answer to whether or not an individual can "design" or "manufacture" a mag for a bolt gun from a semi/full auto mag by modifying it to work only in a bolt gun. IE: a Bren mag in a LE, or a MG13 mag in a Mauser.
 
No, that's not true. It's the firearm the magazine was designed for that the limiting factor, not what it's used in.

An MG13 mag would be required to be pinned at 5, as the MG13 is definitely not a bolt gun. But I've never heard a good answer to whether or not an individual can "design" or "manufacture" a mag for a bolt gun from a semi/full auto mag by modifying it to work only in a bolt gun. IE: a Bren mag in a LE, or a MG13 mag in a Mauser.

Of course you would have to permanently alter the MG13 mag for it to work in a K98. And there is documented evidence of it being used in modified Mausers, last ditch volkssturm guns and the like. Also, WW1 20 round trench mags could be used as well. This being said, I don't know if I would want to try pushing my luck with the reigning authorities. BTW here is a quote from the CFC website:
Q. What is the maximum number of cartridges that a firearm magazine can legally hold?

As set out in Criminal Code Regulations, some large-capacity magazines are prohibited regardless of the class of firearm to which the magazines are attached. As a general rule, the maximum magazine capacity is:

* 5 cartridges for most magazines designed for a semi-automatic centre-fire long gun; or
* 10 cartridges for most handgun magazines

A large-capacity magazine is not prohibited if it has been permanently altered so that it cannot hold more than the number of cartridges allowed by law. Acceptable ways to alter a magazine are set out in the regulations.

There is no limit to the magazine capacity for semi-automatic rim-fire long guns, or for other long guns that are not semi-automatics.

Like I said, it would need to be a permanently altered MG13 mag..... I Think.... Gotta love vague laws.;)
 
I wonder what the regs say about mags that can fit more than one type of cartridge. Say you created a rimfire cartridge with dimensions close enough to .223 that .223 rounds could feed from your 20 round rimfire magazine.

Coincidentially, you later design firearm in .223 that can accept these older magazines...

We know how the law stands on pistol mags (Cx4 and AR-15s using pistol mags) and bolt gun mags (AIA Enfields and M14s) but what does it say about stuffing rounds of a different calibre into a magazine designed for another round?
 
It specifically states that it must only contain the legal amount of the round it was designed for.
In other words, I can put 14 rounds of 9mm in my CZ-75B .40 cal mags legally. As long at the mag says .40 cal, and it holds only 10 rounds of .40 cal, it doesn't matter a lick what you put in, or what it goes into.

I just know someone will make me go diggin' now.
 
It specifically states that it must only contain the legal amount of the round it was designed for.
In other words, I can put 14 rounds of 9mm in my CZ-75B .40 cal mags legally. As long at the mag says .40 cal, and it holds only 10 rounds of .40 cal, it doesn't matter a lick what you put in, or what it goes into.

I just know someone will make me go diggin' now.

No need to go digging.

You are 100% correct.
 
"...why the Enfield was given a specific magazine exemption..." Lots of natives use 'em. However, a plus 5 round rifle mag is evil all by itself.
"...not sure you can hunt with 10 rounds in a Lee..." Depends on where you are. Most Provinces defer to the FA for hunting reg mag capacities though.
 
Most Provinces defer to the FA for hunting reg mag capacities though.

Pretty much except since the Original poster is in Ontario I'll add that shotguns in Ontario for hunting need the plug though to only allow 2 rounds in its magazine and one in the chamber like the federal waterfowl regulations.

Dimitri
 
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