I am unable to find someone to ship direct to Canada so I was going to send 10 80% frames to my uncle and pick them up when I go there. I do not think it is an issue to import as they are not firearms in US or Canada so just wondering if anyone would know if there are any laws against this. I thought I would post here first but if wrong place will move to legal area. Thanks.
80% 1911 Frame from USA
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Phat Eagle
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GeoShooter
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Going through the hassle of 10, you may as well go for 25 and sell a few once you get back
I don't need to make popcorn, lots will be comming soon
I don't need to make popcorn, lots will be comming soon
I think that was the point of me asking a question to determine what is necessary as I have legally exported many pistols from US by filling out paperwork. So I was asking if it is legal or not and if legal is there any paperwork as they are non guns in both US and Canada. I will talk to the proper authorities to validate but they are currently closed.
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Are 80% frames still legally considered firearms?
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- Behind a large rock
Nope.
I've been in contact with a couple of companies in the US, all have stated that 80% 1911 and AR frames are ITAR regulated and they can't ship them hear, nor can they ship them to a US mailing address if they are aware they have been purchased buy someone living outside of the US.
The jigs for completing the frames are not controlled and can be bought without issue.
The jigs for completing the frames are not controlled and can be bought without issue.
What aspect of the frame isn't completed on an 80%? In other words, what's the 20% and jig for?
Frame rail and barrel seat have to be cut, as well as the hammer and sear pin holes drilled and counter sunk. You also have to install a plunger tube which has to be staked.
And of course a serial number has to be engraved and registered with the CFP, I'd recommend doing that first because I'm not sure at what point it becomes a firearm.
Whoa, that's quite a bit of machining. (and I can imagine the questions from the CFO, You what? Made your own 1911 you say? Are you selling these? Are you declaring revenue? ect. ect.)
It all depends on the jig you use. Some require the use of a mill. There is one company that makes a jig that uses carbide cutters to cut the rails and barrel seat, it's called the Phantom Jig made by Stealth Arms. I'm waiting to here back from them to see if they ship to Canada or I might just have it shipped to my US mailbox.
Talked to a guys who used to be a gunsmith, he said it's not too much of a hassle and it wasn't that much different than finding an old handgun that had never been registered before, worst case you may have to take it to a verifier.
Hmm, interesting.
