80% Lower Receivers

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Thought I'd branch off from the AR-15 sticky. Dlask appears to be the only supplier of 80% lower receivers in Canada, and they are charging WAY too much. Just wanted to ask you guys if you had a clear understanding where we sit on these.

- They are pieces of metal until finished in Canada (RCMP) and 100% legal. They need to be registered upon finishing of machine work.
- They are pieces of metal until finished in United States (ATF) and 100% legal, they do not need any forms or permits as it's classed a "home made firearm" as long as the firearm is not sold.

Where it's unclear, is cross-boarder shipping. I'd like to buy one from the States, however I can't find anything under ITAR, nor restrictions on import in Canada. Do you guys have answers? Should I get in contact with the RCMP?
 
I have had some sent through the mail from the U.S. on three occasions. One got grabbed in Vancouver by Canadian Border Services stating the reason was that it was undervalued on the customs sticker. It took 10 months to get it back. The agent was just being an ignorant clown. Now I have everything shipped via a friend living in the States.

As far as I know there are not legal restrictions.
 
last time i checked, dlask only sold registered 80% lowers , so no custom serial number

i want a couple more AR 80% if anyone knows a legit source, hankerin for another custom project
 
45ACPKING said:
last time i checked, dlask only sold registered 80% lowers , so no custom serial number

i want a couple more AR 80% if anyone knows a legit source, hankerin for another custom project
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A quote from their website:

These 80% Receiver’s are in the white and not a gun, No paper work required to purchase, but must be completed by you. All local laws should be followed, and it is up to you to find out what those laws are. Before you complete the lower, know what the laws are in your jurisdiction to prevent being in violation of the law.
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Even if they were registered, it's no issue. My goal here is to build the cheapest AR15 possible. I have easy access to a cnc mill and drill press.

It is my understanding that a blank AR receiver forging is ITAR controlled.
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Since the unfinished receiver is neither a firearm, nor a part (strictly considered a "piece of metal"), I'm under the assumption that it's not classified under ITAR. I'm looking though Sections 121 and 123 right now, and I've yet to find anything on it.
 
i don't see 80% AR receivers listed on dlask's site, just forgings for 40.00
am i missing them somewhere? last time i asked joe about it he told me the rcmp suggested he not sell them anymore
 
I recently imported an 80% lower from the states.

Through the mail, CBSA opened the package and sent it along.

I milled out the required material, but I didn't drill the trigger pin holes.

I contacted the CFC, sent them pictures etc. now I'm just waiting to get my reg cert etc.

Total cost to me right now......... About double of an aero precision lower from s'toon gun works......... Excluding the cost of the milling jig......

It ain't cheaper, that's a guarantee!

I will be posting a thread, start to finish on the project once I have a reg cert from the CFC.
 
just got 4 0% unmilled forging shipped from the states... costed me a wooping 100$ with express shipping. Passed customs without any issues. In the process of milling them out and getting them registered. The box arrived with a crapload of yellow tape but no issues. Got my lower parts kits from brownells, some magpul moe stock and regular commercial receiver extentions... In the end I'm getting 4 complete lower for less than 250 a pop... The most expensive part was getting the magwel wire cut.
 
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notsorichguy said:
I recently imported an 80% lower from the states.

Through the mail, CBSA opened the package and sent it along.

I milled out the required material, but I didn't drill the trigger pin holes.

I contacted the CFC, sent them pictures etc. now I'm just waiting to get my reg cert etc.

Total cost to me right now......... About double of an aero precision lower from s'toon gun works......... Excluding the cost of the milling jig......

It ain't cheaper, that's a guarantee!

I will be posting a thread, start to finish on the project once I have a reg cert from the CFC.
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Not sure if you overpayed on shipping or on the receiver itself, or maybe you payed to have the mill work done, but 80% lowers (before the panic buying) could be had for $50, and I'm able to do the work myself. Can't see how a stripped or complete lower could be cheaper than that.
 
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I don't have a mill, but I do have a milling base for a drill press..

$65 for the 80% lower.
$25 shipping
$27.80 duty/taxes/cbsa handling fees.

Over $118 and I still haven't paid for the jig or specialty cutters etc.

An aero precision lower is $139.......

Need I say more?
 
It's not about saving money, it's about the fun and learning experience of building your own.

Just like reloading, I must have over $3000 in reloading equipment by now... If I spent that on ammo I'd likely be set for life lol. But the reloading hobby and knowledge is fun and fascinating.

Same with building your own AR!
 
notsorichguy said:
I don't have a mill, but I do have a milling base for a drill press..

$65 for the 80% lower.
$25 shipping
$27.80 duty/taxes/cbsa handling fees.

Over $118 and I still haven't paid for the jig or specialty cutters etc.

An aero precision lower is $139.......

Need I say more?
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True, I had the intention of engraving mine though. Motiuk's lowers are nice, but I can get engraving done for free too. ~$118 vs $250.
 
If you plan on getting it hard anodised you can add another $100 (most have a minimum charge of about $100), and you need to find an anodiser that is licenced for restricted firearms. If you don't have a buffer tube tap that is also $50-$60, and the drill jigs
 
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If you plan on getting it hard anodised you can add another $100 (most have a minimum charge of about $100), and you need to find an anodiser that is licenced for restricted firearms. If you don't have a buffer tube tap that is also $50-$60, and the drill jigs
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We can anodize at work, however this is the first time I've heard that it needs to be "licensed". I'll google that, thanks for the heads up.

Also, I don't plan on buying a lower that needs to be tapped, as I don't want to spent the $60 on the tap. 3/4 of the 80% receivers on the US market require the fire control area to be milled, that's what I'll be going with.
 
good luck finding any even in the US right now, every source i checked on is sold out and incidentally all have big bold we do not ship outside US on thier home pages.

if anyone manages to get an order in and actually receive it...... order an extra one for me hehehehe I'll pay extra ;)
an 80% 1911 would be the cats azz as well ;)
 
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