82 Pattern Ruck sacks with Frame

Army Issue Surplus Inc

Army Issue Surplus Inc

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Mississauga ( Port Credit) Ontario
82 Pattern Ruck sacks with Frame


The CAF has run short of the new issue Rucksacks and this is a great

inexpensive option for the Troopies that have to find their own for BASIC training.


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The Original Canadian 82 pattern Backpack.
This Canadian made pack is constructed with tough waterproof nylon.
3 pockets on the face.
the two side pockets are open in the back to allow for Snowshoes, axes or other type items to pass through and will be held securely with a 1 inch nylon strap above the pocket. External Wire frame, padded lower back.
Quick-release shoulder straps.
One large cargo compartment and a Radio sleeve.
2 separate zippered pouches in the lid.
with a zippered pass through.
Adjustable waistband and shoulder straps. Sleeping bag Valise not included.
Good condition but pack will vary in appearance according to its own service record.
Pack may have Canadian Forces Members names on them or other distinct markings.


pick up available at

Army Issue Surplus Inc
312 Lakeshore Road West
Mississauga
L5H 3G8
905 271 1665

Tue Wed 11- 6
Thu Fri 12-7
Sat 10-6
Sun 12-5
 
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Now here is a story. Many years ago, around the late 1990s I went to CFB Meaford to attend the BMQ summer grad parade and pass out unit cap badges to the fresh new recruits. At that time the Area Commander was Maj Gen Stephenson and his son was in my unit on parade graduating as one of those fresh new reserve soldiers. Of course the General was surrounded by the usual boot lickers and riff raff that always hung around.

As I was standing beside the General thinking of what intelligent and insightful remark I could toss his way, he looked at me and seeing I was in the same unit as his son, said "my son told me they were short all sorts of kit like packs and helmets, that shouldn't be, someone should do something". I swear those were his words that "someone should do something" about kit shortages and it wasn't the area commander. He could have made one short phone call to the Meaford Base Commander and the kit shortages would have been solved. I regret not stepping up and saying what I thought but the training was over and all that could be had at this point is lame excuses.

Gen Stephenson was not a perceptive officer and regrettably the army as many more just like him.
 
bigplinker said:
Troops are having to by their own rucksack for basic training?
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Nope

They will either be issued one from stores OR they will use their small pack.

Load of BS

Not to mention you'd have to pay ME to use that ruck. Which the gov't HAS.

Absolute garbage, was designed for mounted operations not dismounted movements. The hip belt is non existent and is THE critical component to carrying loads over any distance
 
chanrobi said:
Nope

They will either be issued one from stores OR they will use their small pack.

Load of BS

Not to mention you'd have to pay ME to use that ruck. Which the gov't HAS.

Absolute garbage, was designed for mounted operations not dismounted movements. The hip belt is non existent and is THE critical component to carrying loads over any distance
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Good to know. I will inform the troopies buying the packs that thier Instructors are incorrect. Please send your contact info along so that they can direct thier Instructor wrath in your direction instead.
From your tone I assume you have some experience with the Army and the Packs. It's good to hear the trains always run on time in BC. Our experience in BanTario may vary from Province to Province. I would not know for sure, I'm not a Troopie, Dude I sell Pants.
I can only relate the Info that I am provided by the members coming in to buy Packs be cause that's what they have been told.
As far as the suitability of the 82's for land Ops Basic training I think you may be the first member to complain about the kit issued by the Queen.
 
There was a rucksack and sleeping bag shortage a few years ago. The email at the time mentioned for HQ staff and CIC "Officers" to turn in their field gear that they were not going to use anyways, so clothing could be issued to the guys that actually required it. The troops going on basic were sometimes only given partial kit issues if clothing ran out. This deficiency was usually rectified within a couple weeks when stock came in.

Not sure what it is like now, but there was also a boot shortage coupled with the poor quality of the newer contract brown/tan boots, and guys were having to go buy their own boots. In which case a reimbursement form was available.
 
chanrobi said:
Nope

They will either be issued one from stores OR they will use their small pack.

Load of BS

Not to mention you'd have to pay ME to use that ruck. Which the gov't HAS.

Absolute garbage, was designed for mounted operations not dismounted movements. The hip belt is non existent and is THE critical component to carrying loads over any distance
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This.
 
Army Issue Surplus Inc said:
Good to know. I will inform the troopies buying the packs that thier Instructors are incorrect. Please send your contact info along so that they can direct thier Instructor wrath in your direction instead.
From your tone I assume you have some experience with the Army and the Packs. It's good to hear the trains always run on time in BC. Our experience in BanTario may vary from Province to Province. I would not know for sure, I'm not a Troopie, Dude I sell Pants.
I can only relate the Info that I am provided by the members coming in to buy Packs be cause that's what they have been told.
As far as the suitability of the 82's for land Ops Basic training I think you may be the first member to complain about the kit issued by the Queen.
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NO one.

I mean NO ONE can force you to buy kit for duty with your own money that is not being reimbursed

I get it you want to sell packs, people will buy them for whatever reason they want. What incenses me is when kit is being grossly misrepresented
 
"What incenses me is when kit is being grossly misrepresented"
Hello Dude, I sell Pants.
The Army Called this a Rucksack in 1982 and issued it for hauling gear all over the world. We have heard many opinions about it's efficacy as a BackPack. In the last 3 decades there have been thousands of these sold at Surplus shops all over Canada. To Civilians. Who then Take them home and strap them onto their escort vehicles for Mounted Operations!
If you have an axe to grind with the issued kit take it up with the CAF.
You keep appearing from under your bridge in this thread, go spread your sour Grapes on your own lawn.
 
Army Issue Surplus Inc said:
Good to know. I will inform the troopies buying the packs that thier Instructors are incorrect. Please send your contact info along so that they can direct thier Instructor wrath in your direction instead.
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You're being fed BS. TBH, feel free to direct any "instructor" comments my way, I'll even provide you with my DWAN email if you'd like! This sounds like some PRes non-sense, these troopies are either full of bologna or their instructors are completely f'n dense and lack the leadership to work for their guys to get proper kit...

You need to take everything recruits tell your with a MASSIVE grain of salt.

Anyway, back on subject, these rucks aren't all that bad and are a pretty cheap alternative for a decent sized ruck with a frame.
 
scruffee said:
You're being fed BS. TBH, feel free to direct any "instructor" comments my way, I'll even provide you with my DWAN email if you'd like! This sounds like some PRes non-sense, these troopies are either full of bologna or their instructors are completely f'n dense and lack the leadership to work for their guys to get proper kit...

You need to take everything recruits tell your with a MASSIVE grain of salt.

Anyway, back on subject, these rucks aren't all that bad and are a pretty cheap alternative for a decent sized ruck with a frame.
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This is getting ridickulous.

The Troopies have the option to use their Small Packs.
Troopies in the store have related that instructors offer their sage advise that the 82's are acceptable.
We have spent years advising young members Moms to not buy Knee pads, CamelBak bladders and other Gucci Kit for their kids going into BASIC.
Dude, I sell Pants, I am not a serving member of the CF The CAF the Cadet Corps or any other Federal Organized Force.
I have 30 years experience dealing with the Troops the Officers of all Stripes and Crowns.
We brought in the 82's as they are hard as #### to find with Frames ATM.
We fired them into the CGN Blender to make our bags available first to our troopies across Canada that maybe looking for the Bags as there is a shortage of Kit in the CF. (That never happened before)

I cannot say with any great conviction what the CAF does in any Province or Territory.
Only what is related to me by the Members walking in through the door and that is their personal experience, misconstrued as it maybe, and relayed here.
Dude, I sell Pants.

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