870's

blasted_saber said:
For deer, 3 inch slugs arent at all needed.
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That goes to my next ? I would have bought a 870 of Moss 500 by now , but was under the impression that a 2 3/4 wasn't much good for deer.

Let me add , does anyone use 20 ga for deer .. I have a 20 ga wingmaster , but will it have enough stopping power :redface::
 
Gymbo said:
That goes to my next ? I would have bought a 870 of Moss 500 by now , but was under the impression that a 2 3/4 wasn't much good for deer.

Let me add , does anyone use 20 ga for deer .. I have a 20 ga wingmaster , but will it have enough stopping power :redface::
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Lots of people and younger kids hunt with a 20g.......if your shot placement is right then its all good.
 
Gymbo said:
That goes to my next ? I would have bought a 870 of Moss 500 by now , but was under the impression that a 2 3/4 wasn't much good for deer.

Let me add , does anyone use 20 ga for deer .. I have a 20 ga wingmaster , but will it have enough stopping power :redface::
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if you already have a 20ga, unless you really want an excuse to buy another shotgun id stick with that.

foster slugs have been taking game successfully for years, you could simply try a few different types from your smoothbore barrel and see which ones group best out of your gun.
if you want the best rifle-like performance, check on the EE for a cantilever rifled barrel for your 20ga.... although some take-off rifled barrel prices on the EE have been pretty ridiculous lately (over $300). there is no way i would pay anything near that - rather than pick up a $300+ rifled barrel i would just buy a $350 Express that already comes with one. if you dont want the two guns, you can part out the receiver, stock, etc on the EE and recoup most of your $.
 
2 3/4" is the way they manufacture Hornady 300g SST shotgun slugs, and they do 2000fps at the muzzle. Sighted in 2 3/4" high at 100 yards they cross zero at 150 yards and drop to 6.7" low at 200 yards (or so they claim on the box). They shoot very accurately, and 300 grains at 2000 fps should deliver a lot of energy.

Rifled shotgun barrels are best used for sabots only. I've heard talk on here of using straight slugs, and some say yes, some say no, too much leading in the barrel. I have no experience to speak of with them. I do know they are not good for shot because the rifle opens up the pattern.
 
leading issue aside - i dont really see the point of going to the trouble to get a rifled barrel and then using typical cheap foster slugs in it. its not like youll be firing hundreds of rounds. sabot slugs cost roughly the same as brennekes for a smoothbore.
 
870 alll the way, mossbergs are ####t there a poor mans gun. thier choke systers are brutal, they swing bad, feel bad, trigger is very gritty feeling not smooth, go with a remington 870 wingmaster or an 870 supermag
 
Remington 870 wingmaster is the cadillac here. I hear Challenger slugs will do whatever you need. I have used Winchester power points which are a one ounce slug and have found them to be surprisingly accurate out to 75 yards and seem to hit like a sledge hammer.
 
mmcintyre1220 said:
870 alll the way, mossbergs are s**tt there a poor mans gun. thier choke systers are brutal, they swing bad, feel bad, trigger is very gritty feeling not smooth, go with a remington 870 wingmaster or an 870 supermag
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are mossbergs really that despicable? i hear they're respectable, affordable shotguns that are very versatile and will get the job done.
 
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