8mm FMJ Pulls in Canada?

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Looking for some plinking bullets for my new FN49. Have lot's of hunting bullets, but looking for something cheaper for range use. Any thoughts on inexpensive bullets in 8mm? Love to pick up some surplus pulls, is there a CDN source for these? If not, are FMJ available at all in .323?

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DT
 
ilovepotatos said:
I saw those. The powder and primers are reusable, right?

So technically, I could take all components in those shots, and stuff 'em into my spent 8mm mauser brass?
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Powder and bullets yes, berdan pimers though.....
Could also ream out a 8x57 for the longer 8x63 and buy a few thousand rounds of ammo.....:)
 
dangertree said:
I smashed my Lyman kinetic puller after 25 .45ACPs. Think a hornady 8mm collet die puller could work with these? Price is right for sure.
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Can't see why not? I find pushing the bullet in a little first makes it alot easier for the kinetic bullet pullers to work. But yeah, the collet type would make quick work of it too.
 
Hitzy said:
Can't see why not? I find pushing the bullet in a little first makes it alot easier for the kinetic bullet pullers to work. But yeah, the collet type would make quick work of it too.
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with that 8x63 ammo i sit in front of the TV and use an 8x56R seating die with a lee hand press to break the crimp on that ammo, then using the kinetic puller is much easier.
 
Not a flame at all, but I have always wondered why anyone would want to use a kinetic puller when a press mounted bullet puller is so easy to use, much faster and cheap to buy?

Ted
 
ilovepotatos said:
I saw those. The powder and primers are reusable, right?

So technically, I could take all components in those shots, and stuff 'em into my spent 8mm mauser brass?
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What type of powder is in those rounds?

Don't know? How are you going to find load info, if you dont have the type of powder?

Be careful, you are playing with fire!
 
So why don't you tell me, Mr. Surplus Ammunition Expert? :p

I know nothing about reloading. Well...next to nothing.

On a side note, anyone know of a cheap gun that would blast this stuff? It's cheaper than 7.62x25mm, which up until now, was the cheapest center fire round out there.
 
Why not? said:
Not a flame at all, but I have always wondered why anyone would want to use a kinetic puller when a press mounted bullet puller is so easy to use, much faster and cheap to buy?

Ted
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because it is what i have (and yes, i regret not doing it the way you suggest).
 
Have a look at my website. I have lots of load data.

I had trouble with a collet puller. I found it very difficult to grip the bullet, as there is no flat part of the bullet exposed above the neck for the puller to grip - the ogive starts at the bullet neck juncture. Very cool and streamlined bullets - see my pics.

If you don't want to re-use the brass, I have a very fast method:

- drill a 5/16" hole in a thick (1/4"+) metal bar. Clamp it to a sturdy table
- hold the cartridge by its base and insert it up into the hole to the neck
- move the base back and forth which will deform and enlarge the neck (the bullet is held motionless in the hole)
- remove the cartridge from the metal bar and remove the bullet by hand keeping it upright
- dump the powder in a container and save, dump the bullet elsewhere and the brass yet another place.
- deactivate the primers by soaking in water for a few days. Dry out and sell for scrap for upwards of $1/lb
- use the powder
- use the bullets

The Kinetic Puller method is a good one too, but much slower, although it saves the necks if you intend to shoot it. Another tip - use a #2 shellholder, not the weak aluminum rubber-banded thing to hold the cartridge in the Kinetic Puller
 
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Pulling bullets from some cases can be difficult if there is a sealant around the bullet. The fastest method I've found is to use a pair of plier type wire strippers - the kind with the strippers for various sized wire between the handles. Raise the cartridge in your press, grip the bullet firmly with the wire strippers, then lower the ram, and the bullet is pulled with little deformation in most cases.

Finding a powder charge for an unknown surplus powder is not difficult. Weigh the bullet from the cartridge, then weigh the powder charge. Find load data for that cartridge to see which powders are loaded to that charge weight within that bullet weight. This gives the relative burning rate of the powder, and you can safely work up loads using published data from powders with a similar burning rate in another cartridge. For an example, if you got the powder from a 7.62X51 cartridge, and weighing the bullet and powder charge showed that it was consistent with data for H-4895, you could safely work up a load in say a .30-06 using H-4895 data.
 
Andy said:
I had trouble with a collet puller. I found it very difficult to grip the bullet, as there is no flat part of the bullet exposed above the neck for the puller to grip - the ogive starts at the bullet neck juncture.
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Roger that. I have run into that as well. That's when I get out the pliers. :D

Ted
 
762nato said:
If you seat the bullet slightly first it brakes the seal and the collet puller will work fine.

Andy
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I have done that, but I think what Andy is saying is that there is no full diamter portion of the bullet above the neck for the collet to grip.

In that case seating it deeper will make the problem worse.

Ted
 
Hitzy said:
If you don't mind the pulling.....http://www.marstar.ca/ammo/792x63mm.htm
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My personal observation on pulling down a bunch of this 7.92x63 Swedish ammo:

-The usual trick of seating the bullet deeper does not work very well. The bullets don’t seem to be crimped into a cannelure, they appear to have been crimped into the bullet so hard that they form a "sort of" cannelure in the bullet - seating bullet deeper then buckles the case instead of breaking the bond.

-The taper of the bullet is such that a bench-mounted tool such as the RCBS collet puller has very little surface to grip. You have to tighten the living snot out of the collet to keep it from pulling off the bullet. So tight that the bullets end up with four rather deep marks from the collet. And when/if you finally get a bullet pulled it's not easy to get the bullet out of the collet jaws.

- I hate to say it, but my best result so far has been with an impact puller. And that still involves a lot of pounding. Much more banging than is normally required.

Can you tell I've had "fun" with this 7.92x63? I’ve torn down a fair bit of ammo over the years and this stuff is the most miserable I’ve yet worked on. Because the bullets were cupronickel jacketed I suspect there is a larger than normal cold bonding between the bullet and the case neck.

I’ve thought about drechambering a Mauser to 7.92x63mm, but that won’t help you with an FN-49.
 
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