8X56 MS loadd data please

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Anybody have load data for the 8X56 Mannlicher Schoenauer?
I just aquired one and was wondering what fellas are shooting these great little carbines.
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I have a Steyr-Mannlicher 1895 in 8x56. I fire-formed 7.62x54 brass and resized .338 hornady 200 grain bullets to .329 .
59 grains of H-4831 pushed them out at 2160 fps
 
are you talking about the 8x56R for the steyr 1895 straight-pull or the 8x56 for the 1908 mannlicher schoenauer?

if it is the 8x56R i use:
graf brass
WLR primer
205 gr hornady .330" bullet
IMR 4064
 
8X56 Mannlicher , for this li'l guy!:dancingbanana:
It's the Rimless case, made from 8x57 Mauser.
It was made in Sept. 1925.
Cat
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wow, nice carbine.... if you ever chose to sell it....let me know.

i have no experience (obviously) with the 8x56MS but i would reduce 8x57 mauser starting loads by a couple of grains. i would treat it like the 300 savage is to the 308 winchester, using modern 8x57 data.

or i might even just use the weak 8x57 data (lee and maybe others show 35000 CUP data) and see how that shots with relation to the sights.

how do you know the rifle was made in september of 1925? it must have the post 1924 bolt release but how do you know september?

does it have any merchants markings on it?
 
MiG25 said:
wow, nice carbine.... if you ever chose to sell it....let me know.

i have no experience (obviously) with the 8x56MS but i would reduce 8x57 mauser starting loads by a couple of grains. i would treat it like the 300 savage is to the 308 winchester, using modern 8x57 data.

or i might even just use the weak 8x57 data (lee and maybe others show 35000 CUP data) and see how that shots with relation to the sights.

how do you know the rifle was made in september of 1925? it must have the post 1924 bolt release but how do you know september?

does it have any merchants markings on it?
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This carbine is goin' nowhere, even if it IS a bolt action!!:D

I was looking more for data that members had already used and was reliable, I have acess to data, just looking for experienced stuff.
Under the barrel there are a set of numbers on the mannlichers that denote the date of manufacture.
Cat
 
well, looked under the barrel on my MS (M.1910) and no numbers showing date of manufacture.

when you have it up and running you will have to let us know the results.
 
We found the hints for dating in a post on 24hcf; I guess that I can safely say that I have now sold this rifle!

I didn't really want to let it go, but the scrawny old cat has mange or something else equally awful and can't seem to manage anything heavier/more modern.

The darndest things show up when I take a light down into the Badger sett!
 
catnthehatt said:
Anybody have load data for the 8X56 Mannlicher Schoenauer?...
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FWIW, I just came across this on Chuck Hawks website:

"...A reloader with an 8x56 M-S rifle and a supply of brass should have no serious problems. A couple of reloads (enough to get started) are provided in Cartridges of the World, 9th Edition by Frank C. Barnes.

According to that data, 44.0 grains of IMR 4895 powder behind a 170 grain bullet gives a MV of 2260 fps and ME of 1935 ft. lbs. That would be a good deer and black bear (CXP2 class game) load at woods ranges, similar to the .32 Winchester Special. Its trajectory, using the Speer 170 grain semi-spitzer bullet (SD .232, BC .354), looks like this: +1.6" at 50 yards, +2.9" at 100 yards, +2.2" at 150 yards, -0.9" at 200 yards, -6.7" at 250 yards, and -15.5" at 300 yards. The MPBR (+/- 3") is 220 yards.

Alternatively, 40.0 grains of IMR 3031 powder behind a 200 grain bullet gives a MV of 2050 fps and ME of 1875 ft. lbs. That would seem to be a reasonable starting load for the hunter favoring heavy bullets, similar in velocity and energy to the standard 200 grain factory load for the .35 Remington, but superior in SD and presumably penetration...."

:) Stuart
 
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