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anybody loading for a 9.3x57?

i have a rifle on order and intend to try norma 232 grainers and nosler 286'ers.

i am thinking that powders on the order of IMR 4064, RL 15, H335 are suitable (and i have them).

if i can get 2150 fps with a 286 grain bullet or 2400 with 236 grains i will be happy.
 
QuickLoad?

Hi, I ran things through QuickLoad software. What you want should be entirely safe and sane. I assumed a 24" barrel, and an OAL of 82mm (3.228").

For 232 gr Norma Oryx, RL15::53gr//H335::52gr//IMR4064::52.5gr

For 286 Nosler Part, RL15::46gr//H335::45gr//IMR4064::44gr.

The pressures calculated for these loads are at least 5,000psi below the maximum calculated by QuicKLoad. Use good sense and caution, your rifle may be elderly!
 
downwindtracker2 said:
What action is your potato chucker.If it's M96 keep your loads down.
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it is a '98.

i figure that 2150fps with a 286 grain bullet will do for anything that is within range of the open sights.

thanks for the info oldbadger, i figured in the low 40's would be good starting loads with those powders.
 
Jason, I think it was you I was sharing the loads with, anyway, H335 by far gave me the best velocity with 270 gr Speers. I also tried IMR 3031, H4895 and H414 and they were a long way behind the H335. As far as accuracy, it didn't really seem to change, 2" groups shooting by resting on one knee. Once the loads were worked up my Husky started to boot me a bit so I didn't want to get a flinch going off the bench I was using.

Case: Metalverkkin (sp)
Primer: CCI250
Bullet: Speer 270gr Semi Spitzer @ 3.194"

Hope this helps.

Have you gotten your toy then?

Noel
 
the husky arrived the other day, i feel that i got a steal of a deal since i have had a chance to examine it.

'98 type action, dating to just before WWII according to the SN ranges i have seen for these, word on the street is these are FN actions, if so, mine has no marks of any sort to prove it.

i am looking for a load that will shoot to the sights, the front is fixed and the rear is driftable in a dovetail.

so last night i did up some loads. took them out today, temperature around 0C. recoil was very mild for a rifle that has no recoil pad on it.

using norma brass, 232 gr norma vulkans, and WLR primers.

IMR3031
43gr = 2004 fps
45gr = 2113 fps
47gr = 2214 fps

IMR4064
50gr = 2234 fps
51gr = 2251 fps
52gr = 2295 fps

all of these loads shoot high. the loads with 4064 are all compressed.


my next step is to try some loads with RL15. i am hoping that a slower powder will bring the impact down.

also need to find some heavier bullets. and if all else fails, get a taller front sight.
 
264magnum said:
All of these guns were regulated for the 286grn bullet. They will probably shoot to your liking.
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i suspect a 286 grainer at 2100 fps will be bang on. but, for the moment, the 232 grainers as all that i have.

also, the rifle has 9 "hash marks" on the pistol grip cap, i am assuming for 9 swedish moose.
 
MiG25 said:
using norma brass, 232 gr norma vulkans, and WLR primers.

IMR3031
43gr = 2004 fps
45gr = 2113 fps
47gr = 2214 fps

IMR4064
50gr = 2234 fps
51gr = 2251 fps
52gr = 2295 fps

all of these loads shoot high. the loads with 4064 are all compressed.
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tried some more loads today. temperature around -3 C.

IMR 3031
49gr = 2260 fps

RL 15
52gr = 2262 fps
54gr = 2341 fps

powder from swedish 8x63
54.5gr = 2025 fps

the load with the swedish powder shoots just above point of aim, the others were all high. looks like i might have a deer load.

next step is to try some 286 grainers, i have found some, now just need to load them up.
 
Swedish 96's are very strong, due to the Bofors steel they are made from. They are actually stronger than most 98 mausers made up until the end of ww2, 98's 0f this era are made of hot rolled steel that is then carburised.

Swedish 96's machine and drill and tap like heat treated cromemoly steel. They do not handle gas ruptures as well as 98's, and of course they #### on closing,

All of the other pre 98 mausers are definetly weaker than a 98, but the sweede is much different. Thousands of 96's were made into sporters in Sweden in 8-57 js, which has very hot loads in Europe. I have never
seen a 96 with the lugs set back , I have seen several 98's that had lugs set back.
 
Hmmm,

I should finally have all of the dies, 286gr bullets, and brass arriving by Monday or Tuesday at the latest to start loading for the 9.3x57 and 9.3x62. I have a pound of IMR 3031 on hand and the better part of a pound of H414 which will likely form the basis of my first loads.

In addition to the prospect of adding H335 to the list, I was wondering if anyone has tried H4350. On the Hogdon site, they list it as providing from 2300fps starting to 2400fps max load with 286 grainers in the 9.3x62, which leads me to think that they might be good for 2000-2100fps in the x57 with the same bullets. Has anyone else here had any experiences with that powder.....and perhaps can recommend a reasonable starting load.

On the issue of the adequacy of the M94/96 actions of the Model 46 Husky, it might be worth pointing out that they made them with the 9.3x62 chambering during the war. The load that I've pointed to above was listed as having a CUP rating of 40,000-47 000, which was not all that different from the 140-160gr loads in the 6.5x55 or the heavier 8x57 loads on the Hogdon site. It would appear to me that as long as all of the normal precautions are taken, starting with loads reduced by 10%, that the scrupulous reloader should have little to worry about.

Now I just have to get enough Acraglass to bed these rifles before the weather warms up, lest I be watching all my stocks split apart!

With Regards,

Frank
 
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