9.3x62 232 vulkan reloading help

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Hey everyone, I'm finally getting some time to do some reloading for my 9.3x62 in a modern sako action, problem is I'm having a hard time finding a recipe for what I want to reload.
I have some older norma 232 grain 69305 bullets which is basically the vulkan before it was called that, I'd like to use these as I'm only realistically going after wt deer or black bear and would only shoot a max of 250 yards.
The problem is the load data I can find for that weight of bullet is either with norma or reloader powders, both of which both I can't find anywhere.
In my stash at home I have h4831, vv n160, and rl22, I'm happy to use those or anything else as long as I can find it for sale somewhere.
If anyone has some load data or their own recommendations that they have used with an available powder I would be happy to hear it.
Thanks
 
4831 is probably slower than optimum for that bullet weight. Faster powders in the 3031 to 4895 range would be better.

If you can't find data for 232 gr, use data for 250gr to get starting loads, and work up.
 
Those powders are, IMNSHO, way too slow for that weight of bullet in a 9.3x62.
If you look at Norma's loading manual for that weight of bullet, they use N201 & N202 powders.

If you look at a European burn rate chart that includes the Norma powders, you'll see that Norma's N201 powder is at roughly the same burning rate as H322, IMR8208x, H335, X-Terminator & N130, while N202 is roughly the same as Varget, N133 & TAC, H4895, IMR4064, IMR4895 & BLC-2.
 
Thanks guys, I realize those powders are on the slow side it's just what I had on hand from reloading my 6.5 sweedish, but would be willing to buy something else as long as I can find availability.
I also have a short 20" barrel on my 9.3 so yeah a faster burning powder would definitely be better as well
 
You could use the three powders you mentioned. But even with a bit of a compressed load you will only get a bit under ninety percent of the powder burnt, and a bit slower velocity. So it will want to foul your barrel pretty quickly, with a nice fireball from the muzzle.

As others stared, that H4895 is right in that sweet spot. I think Accurate 2520 was a good powder for that weight, with top velocity, and is available to buy lots of places around Canada. It isn't nearly as temp stable as H4895, or Varget, but it's also almost half the price.
 
leeelmer said:
cfe 223 is the powder that will give you the best speed in the 9.3
And usally by quite a bit
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With all bullet weights? 200 to 300 gr? That's a bold statement. Do you mean like 4350 is the best in 30-06, where it's too slow for 150gr, but good in 180s?
 
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In my 9.3x66 every bullet weight tried, 232, 250, 258, 286 cfe223 was faster than any other powder tried, now i didn't try every powder in the book but 4-5 different powders it was faster, in the 258 hammer bullets it was 150fps faster than others before pressure signs were noted, so I would say that is significant.
But every rifle is different.
 
I run my 9.3x62 with Fox 200gr and Speer 235gr .375 (resized to .366) Hot-Cors with Varget, N140, IMR3031 and H4895 and I have I found Varget and N140 to be the most versatile powders for the full range of bullet weights (from Lapua 180grs to Norma 300grs), but there are better choices to maximize performance at the extreme ends (i.e., RL-17, H4350, and N150 for heavy weights; and BLC-2, CFE223, and RL-15 for light weights). If I could only use one powder in my 9.3x62, it would be Varget.

For reload data, I use the Gordon Reloading Tool (free online download - or at least was).
 
To the OP,
Your powders are not good for the 9.3. choose fast burning powders. Some have already indicated CFE 223. Other great powders are H4895 and Varget. These can still be found. H4895 works with all bullet weights in the cartridge. My load for the Oryx 232 is 62 grains of RL 15, but this is not to be found these days.
 
jethunter said:
With all bullet weights? 200 to 300 gr? That's a bold statement. Do you mean like 4350 is the best in 30-06, where it's too slow for 150gr, but good in 180s?
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Since when is H4350 too slow for 150 grain bullets in the aught six? News to me. Because it gives close to top velocity among other powders, and has been a staple for that cartridge and bullet weight since it's inception.
 
Denver Steve said:
Since when is H4350 too slow for 150 grain bullets in the aught six? News to me. Because it gives close to top velocity among other powders, and has been a staple for that cartridge and bullet weight since it's inception.
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Since a long time.

Did you mean to say CFE is the fastest powder for all bullet weights in 9.3x62?
 
Meroh said:
I use IMR 4350 in my 6.5, and IMR 4805 in the 9.3. Why? Because I have them. LOL
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I have no experience loading in a 9.3, yet. I did just recently buy a new Sauer chambered in 9.3x62, picked up some bullets. Haven't grabbed dies yet. But I have a wide variety of powders I can run in it. Gonna be a hunting gun, so I want to use powders that aren't too sensitive. Sonic I develop a load when it's a bit cooler outside, it won't be overpressure, and cycle good in the action of for some reason it gets crazy hot out while hunting. Sometimes elk and moose rifle season we got some damn hot days. 34°C outside the other year when the old lady got a moose...

Just gonna load up some 286 grain hornady interlock bullets with reloder 17, to break the barrel in some. I don't usually develop a load till I get a hundred rounds down the pipe. I have lots of old RL-17 on hand, it's kind of my go-to powder for barrel break in. Works in a pile of cartridges.

Then I would like to get my hands on some heavier woodleigh bullets...if they ever start to trickle back into Canada, and make a nice dedicated hunting round from those. Some 320 grain woodleigh bullets are what I'm hoping for, but if I can't get those, I might just run some lighter Barnes bullets
 
Denver Steve said:
I have no experience loading in a 9.3, yet. I did just recently buy a new Sauer chambered in 9.3x62, picked up some bullets. Haven't grabbed dies yet. But I have a wide variety of powders I can run in it. Gonna be a hunting gun, so I want to use powders that aren't too sensitive. Sonic I develop a load when it's a bit cooler outside, it won't be overpressure, and cycle good in the action of for some reason it gets crazy hot out while hunting. Sometimes elk and moose rifle season we got some damn hot days. 34°C outside the other year when the old lady got a moose...

Just gonna load up some 286 grain hornady interlock bullets with reloder 17, to break the barrel in some. I don't usually develop a load till I get a hundred rounds down the pipe. I have lots of old RL-17 on hand, it's kind of my go-to powder for barrel break in. Works in a pile of cartridges.

Then I would like to get my hands on some heavier woodleigh bullets...if they ever start to trickle back into Canada, and make a nice dedicated hunting round from those. Some 320 grain woodleigh bullets are what I'm hoping for, but if I can't get those, I might just run some lighter Barnes bullets
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I'm not hunting, mine is a range toy. First 3 shot group shot with Irons at 100 yards with 286 PPUs ahead of stout load of 4895 were all touching, 10" high at 100, and about 3 left of center. I think the factory sights may be set for 200? PPU RNSP will work on everything on this side of the Atlantic. It is an old HVA, already broken in. Since I have owned it, it has gotten no factory ammo.
 
I think it would be helpful if you had a chronograph. I have two 9.3x62s and they both shoot 285gr PPUs well and at 2350fps they seem to be zeroed at 100 m. I think it's unlikely that someone would regulate the sights on a single leaf rear sight on a 9.3x62 to 200.
 
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