98K 22 conversion kit

[Imperial luger]

afternoon Gents

For those interested in these Erma manufactured German 22 cal conversion kits, I was recently successful in my bids for this kit. It will now accompany my all matching 1937 Sauer K98 rifle along with a 1937 luger ensemble. And my Simson 98Gewehr with Simson Luger. The kit is all original having being assigned to a few different Weimar era German Regiments. the bolt itself is unit stamped 10/J.R.17.5 which would be an Weimar era Infantry Regiment due to the slash after the # 10 translated as assigned to the Tenth Infantry Regiment seventeenth company waffe Nr.five which would place it as the fth small arms unit in the Regiment. It has the proper E.L.24 stamp for Erma WaA 51 acceptance proofs. Along with a few other Weimar era eagle proof acceptances.

Came with two correct magazines in 22 cal manufactured by Haenel along with proper receiver adjusting tool and the floor plate necessary to accommodate the 22 cal magazines. The floor plate is stamped Erma Erfurt 1937 with a WaA of 280 acceptance. Small serial digit #76 The bolt is serialed 4767 so for sure an replacement unit to the overall kit. Burnt into the wood on the top of case is 3./A.R.5.9. which is a separate Artillery regiment in the Weimar era of Germany, this translates to the third Artillery Regiment 5th company waffe Nr 9, so as you can see the unit surely made the rounds in a cash strapped Weimar era Armed forces period.

The side and inside lid of the wooden carry case is marked E.L.24m.M.NR.1226 which I will have to research however I would surmise that this is Erma,s internal cataloging of the unit, below that is Kar.98K.6661 which is the rifle it was first serialed to in my opinion. The inside of lid has the units serial # 4767 in German fashion.

These kits are so hard to find and seldom seen for sale in Canada that I was ecstatic to be able to aquire the unit for future Canadian collectors.

I am not set up to take photos however if someone out there has the ability to recover the photos from Landsbouroughs auction and post them here it would be appreciated. Lot # 199 in the March sale. Short of that I could email a few photos to a willing individual to attach.

 

[gaff]

just had a look at the kit on the auction site . it is definitely a mixmaster. the mags are for the first type floor plate , and the floor plate with your kit is the second type .
i can post some pic later to show you the difference. how far does your barrel tube protrude from the barrel of a standard k98?

 

[Imperial luger]

Just got the Kit in the mail today and never tried installing the unit yet, when the 22 conversion is layed up against a 43 dated model 98's receiver the tube would be a flush fit at barrels muzzle. the 22 cal tube fits nice and snug in the bore. You are probably correct about the floor plate however the magazines slide into the floor plate real snug and lock nicely into place. I'm not sure how to date this piece but the unit marks are Weimar and seeing as the cart doesn't come ahead of the horse I would say mid twenties. For sure the floor plate is dated 1937 so makes sense what you are saying about the magazine plates time frame. The reichswehr armed forces were a cash strapped cobbled up army to begin with so no doubt the unit survived into the Third Reich period as a hand me down.

Anyways I'm happy with the unit.

The milled out section in the wooden case is a nice fit for the conversions tube and bolt assembly.

Are u able to upload the photos to this site.

 

[gaff]

here are the two styles of mags.

this one shows the late type floor plate

this is the early style. there is also a single shot version.

when you put it in a rifle if it protrudes, let me know how much. Would also like to see pic of the tools and cutouts in the box.

 

[Imperial luger]

Thankyou for posting the photos Matt, My magazines are like the ones you posted with the piece of spring steel attached to the side with a couple of small rivets, to my knowledge Haenel was a luger magazine supplier also, the firm supplied many of the early police magazines to the Weimar republic and the Third Reich also, but not sure when they started. These mags have the word Haenel inside the arrow shaft and are also accepted Eagle 81..The floor plate in your photo is a dead ringer Eagle 280 proofed to my example.

Also in the wooden box you can see where someone has enlarged the area to accommodate the 2nd style floor plate, your assumptions have been dead on Sir, thankyou for your learned help.

 

[Imperial luger]

Installed the 22 conversion in a 43 dated model 98, fits real tight, had to grease up the bore pretty good. When the photos are uploaded one photo has the small punch like tool for tightening the conversion in the chamber, left hand threaded collar. Took her outside and apart from a small feeding issue shot just fine, clearly I will have to adjust the floor plate to tip the magazines slightly to solve the feeding issue. Bolt locks up just fine in 98's receiver. Nice quality German engineering and design. Inside the wooden carry case their is another small tool like a long punch with handle, looks like this may be used to push 22 tube back out of the rifles bore, no tube protrusion, sits back from muzzle approx. 1/2 inch.

Photos sent to your email Matt so when u get the chance please post, thankyou.

 

[gaff]

Here are pictures of imperial lugers el 24.