9mm carbine. More than a toy?

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I like the idea of a small rifle that barely kicks and isn't loud. I would also like such a rifle in non restricted form. But having an 18.5" barrel on a 9mm, can it ever be more than just an expensive gopher gun?

Are there loads in a 9mm that could say, be used for whitetail at close range?

Is a 9mm ever going to plink with the hunting rifles at a distance past 100 yards?

I have no experience, and have yet to do any research, thought I'd start here.
 
Never hunted with 9mm so can't say much on that. There's a couple videos on YouTube where guys stretch it out beyond what you'd expect from a 9mm carbine.

https://youtu.be/_wXFf34bB34

My first PCC was a JR carbine. Benefits in Canada would be that it's non restricted and can carry 10 rounds but that was about it. Was heavy and at the size of an DMR AR with capabilities of a pistol round, I sold it as soon as I could find a sub2000 in stock.

If we were in the US I'd have no use for the sub2k, but here in Canada a 10 round semi auto that uses the same mags as my Glock and fits easily into a small backpack when folded, while being non restricted..

Love it :)

They say 9mm out of the longer barrel in a pistol caliber carbine approaches 357 velocity (in a handgun I'm assuming). Just heresay, but, I've heard it mentioned several times in all the highly reputable internet forums lol
 
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I have no experience hand loading, but wondered if a slower burning powder you could work a bit of a load up for 9mm in 18.5" barrel that would actually utilise the longer barrel better.
In particular I love my cx4 storm.

But I suspect deviating from the standard 9mm load could play havoc on the blow back design.
 
1feral1 said:
MPs 38, 40, STENs, Sterlings, Uzis, and MP5's weren't toys :)
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That's a fact. They work pretty good on "bad guys", but for a solid one shot kill on a White Tail I think a little more pop is in order. A lever action in .357 Mag would be a bit more effective and still be light on the recoil and relatively quiet. I can't recall the make but someone makes a 10mm carbine, that would do the job as well.
 
^^Theuron Defense makes a 10mm carbine for around $1500 but if hunting is the intended application and unless you already have a G20 and a supply of ammo you can't shoot enough of at the range, or money to burn, I'd have a few other choices and calibers I'd look at first :)
 
The little bit if research that I've done says that 9mm travels too slowly to properly expand. Apparently there are soft points with holes in them to help with expansion, but I doubt that penetration would be sufficient.
 
Well, that YouTube video sure seems too good to be true. And multiple hits at 440 yards with open sights isn't terrible.

I've heard that some states have bullet energy @ 100 yards rules for hunting, but there is nothing like that in Canada right? Just bigger than .22 I think...
 
you can certainly hunt with the 9mm but be prepared to track the bleeding deer through the bush.
another hurdle is to find soft-point ammo that works at 9mm speeds.
 
rob350 said:
I have no experience hand loading, but wondered if a slower burning powder you could work a bit of a load up for 9mm in 18.5" barrel that would actually utilise the longer barrel better.
In particular I love my cx4 storm.

But I suspect deviating from the standard 9mm load could play havoc on the blow back design.
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See how cool the Internet is, you asked and answered your own question.
 
legi0n said:
you can certainly hunt with the 9mm but be prepared to track the bleeding deer through the bush.
another hurdle is to find soft-point ammo that works at 9mm speeds.
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Heh? So none of the hundreds of 9mm JHPs work at the speed of the round they are designed for? What the hell are those ammo designers doing, making ammo that doesn't work in the ammo it is designed to work in?
 
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