9mm carbine. More than a toy?

I hunted down a deer with 9mm carbine. So, I think I should post my comment here. 9mm carbine makes a great deer rifle within 100 yards with a good hollow point. It is possible to hunt down the deer on the spot with a good chest shot.
 
The problem with great technology is that everyone wants to bash previous methods as "unsuitable" because there are better options currently out there.

I'm sure in the history of mankind, dudes used to effectively down their targets with less than a modern semi auto 9mm carbine loaded with hollowpoints.

I am not advocating taking your sub2k on your next elk hunt. Humans have developed enough that we have tool boxes full of options for appropriate tasks.

But would a 9mm carbine with the right ammo take down a large mammal at a reasonable distance in the hands of a skilled rifleman?

Yes.

Can you get a more effective and more humane option from your local big box or online that would do a better job?

Also yes.
 
redshooter said:
That's a fact. They work pretty good on "bad guys", but for a solid one shot kill on a White Tail I think a little more pop is in order. A lever action in .357 Mag would be a bit more effective and still be light on the recoil and relatively quiet. I can't recall the make but someone makes a 10mm carbine, that would do the job as well.
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I believe Thureon Defense makes a 10mm, 45acp, 40 S&W and 9MM version.

Coolest thing about the pistol carbine is the ability to use a 10rd pistol magazine and the added barrel length will add a little zip onto the round... definitely not a hunting caliber for a thicker skinned animal - I'd step it up if I was hunting with it. NR Pistol carbine is a great home defense, plinking and varmint gun.
 
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Deer come in different sizes.
The BC guys will recognize the name Texada Island.
The deer there are TINY!
They are like dogs.
And lots of them...
As well, the island is heavily treed so close shooting.
Also, NO bear or cougar on the island.
I would not hesitate to hunt Texada with a 9mm Carbine
 
Man reading through all the opinions here makes my head spin. Is the 9mm the best deer rifle cartridge around, no. Will it do the job within certain constraints, yes.

Comparing military armour piercing bullets with an expanding bullet design is just silly. FMJ or armour piercing are just not suitable for hunting irrespective of calibre.

I think everyone would consider a 357 Mag ok for deer hunting up to 100 yards. An appropriately designed bullet and cartridge in 9mm is shooting the same size and weight of bullet at the same speed. How is this not suitable? A 9mm will punch through a 2x4 at 400 yards. The deer I see around here are certainly going to notice being hit by a 9mm. Maybe not a mule deer but most.

The advantages of a 9mm carbine are that they are typically light and easy to aim and shoot with very rapid follow up shots.

Would I recommend buying a 9mm carbine for hunting deer, no, there are better options but to say it is not suitable is not reasonable. If that is what you have I don't see any issue at all so long as you apply some common sense.
 
grinder08 said:
Man reading through all the opinions here makes my head spin. Is the 9mm the best deer rifle cartridge around, no. Will it do the job within certain constraints, yes.

Comparing military armour piercing bullets with an expanding bullet design is just silly. FMJ or armour piercing are just not suitable for hunting irrespective of calibre.

I think everyone would consider a 357 Mag ok for deer hunting up to 100 yards. An appropriately designed bullet and cartridge in 9mm is shooting the same size and weight of bullet at the same speed. How is this not suitable? A 9mm will punch through a 2x4 at 400 yards. The deer I see around here are certainly going to notice being hit by a 9mm. Maybe not a mule deer but most.

The advantages of a 9mm carbine are that they are typically light and easy to aim and shoot with very rapid follow up shots.

Would I recommend buying a 9mm carbine for hunting deer, no, there are better options but to say it is not suitable is not reasonable. If that is what you have I don't see any issue at all so long as you apply some common sense.
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I'd like to see what they can do to a yote at 80 yards
 
grinder08 said:
I think everyone would consider a 357 Mag ok for deer hunting up to 100 yards. An appropriately designed bullet and cartridge in 9mm is shooting the same size and weight of bullet at the same speed.
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no and no
don't kid yourself, there's no replacement for displacement.
 
TDizzle said:
I'd like to see what they can do to a yote at 80 yards
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It drops them. Took one last summer @ 75yrd with my ASR, First shot dropped his rear quarter, second follow up shot put him cold. Coyote was half ass running during the first shot, ASR was new, and I only had 115gr FMJ. I have HP's now....
 
Erickson5006 said:
I like the idea of a small rifle that barely kicks and isn't loud. I would also like such a rifle in non restricted form.
But having an 18.5" barrel on a 9mm, can it ever be more than just an expensive gopher gun?

Are there loads in a 9mm that could say, be used for whitetail at close range?

Is a 9mm ever going to plink with the hunting rifles at a distance past 100 yards?

I have no experience, and have yet to do any research, thought I'd start here.
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The Glock 9mm Kel-Tec SUB-2000 is very popular here in the states.

I picked one up in trade as a project gun I could tinker with without shooting up my more expensive ammunition.
So far-so good, it's accurate & reliable, and it's a blast to shoot... I have a suppressor on the way for my Glock
pistols, and I made sure that it would also work on my S2K. The weapon & recoil are light enough than anybody
can shoot it, and the novelty of folding in half makes folks smile.

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tootall said:
Deer come in different sizes.
The BC guys will recognize the name Texada Island.
The deer there are TINY!
They are like dogs.
And lots of them...
As well, the island is heavily treed so close shooting.
Also, NO bear or cougar on the island.
I would not hesitate to hunt Texada with a 9mm Carbine
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